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Watched both the Tron movies back to back, still love them a lot.

Not my main thing musically, but I dare say I'm more fond of it than you are.

I found it tonally perfect, moving and a perfect fit, elevating the movie from good to great.
Again, in the movie, it's great. As far as memorable, outside of the movie, it's not. And certainly not enough for me to go "OHHHH! Daft Punk! I love those guys!"

Sorry. I'm someone who thinks music should always be tonally perfect and moving. So, if it doesn't fit then it will stand out. If it did its job it usually isn't registering in my mind, unless it is standout-like the Ride of the Rohirrim in The Return of the Kings.
 
Electronic music is not something I find particularly appealing. So outside of the Tron environment it lacks a feel that I find enjoyable as just listening music.


What about artists like Jean Michael Jarré do you like his music?
I have an album of his somewhere.
 
I like the first one and I love the second. There are a lot of callbacks in the second one but I think it works because that's just surface details while the underlying themes are different. It has what I call my favourite sequel Luke Skywalker moment, where Flynn comes into the End of Line club to rescue Sam and Quorra and just his mere presence changes the battle.
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I love this soundtrack as it's own thing too, especially the track 'Recogniser' but man I chuck on the soundtrack while driving to or from work sometimes and when you're on the freeway and the windows are down it's magical.
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I also love that Patrick Collins used the soundtrack for a short recut of The Motion Picture and it creates this momentum and tension in the film that I never felt before.
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Like an abandoned arcade. Who owned it? How was it not trashed or bulldozed for over 20 years?

Flynn/ENCOM owned it, and it was hidden in the books somewhere as a monthly payment. You'd be surprised how easily these things be overlooked in a multinational corporation.

...and how did Flynn steal that laser from Encom?

Flynn was President and CEO of ENCOM at the end of Tron, wasn't he? He can do anything he wants with their/his tech.

Where was the grid located exactly, in the original movie it was hinted at it was inside that single mainframe computer, but where is it now in the second movie?
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Encom had become a huge corporation, surely someone there knew something was using computer resources or no one would have seen this grid thing, if it's just data it would have been eating up resources wouldn't it?
Flynn knew how to cover his tracks. He programmed the computer from the inside. Presumably he put in a bunch of back doors that no one knew about nor had security levels to access them.

Oh and Quorra, how did she become flesh and blood?
The laser!

As for Clu what the heck, what exactly was he going to bring into the real world? if it was only he and his army they don't exactly have weapons, and it didn't seem objects apart from clothing could move between worlds..

The same thing that the MCP was going to bring in. A very large transport ship that would re-rez (?) in the basement of the arcade....

Anyway, I saw TRON as a kid and thought it was cool. But I saw TRON: Legacy at a time in my life that warranted deep reflection to my youth (turned 40, had a newborn daughter, etc...) -- a time when I needed my own Grid as an escape from reality -- and I loved it. I used to watch the first 45 minutes for fun, and felt like I was being transported into the computer too (wine helped with the illusion).

I'm delighted to hear there's a new sequel on the way. Didn't know about that.
 
I'm pretty sure The Grid in 'Legacy' existed exclusively within the hardware Flynn had stashed and running in the arcade's basement, not in Encom's servers. That's what kept everything contained and prevented Clu from simply buggering off into the relative infinite vastness of the internet, hence the need to *physically* escape Flynn's created world.

IIRC at the end of the movie we see Sam downloading the whole thing onto a USB before switching off the old super computer.
 
I'm pretty sure The Grid in 'Legacy' existed exclusively within the hardware Flynn had stashed and running in the arcade's basement, not in Encom's servers. That's what kept everything contained and prevented Clu from simply buggering off into the relative infinite vastness of the internet, hence the need to *physically* escape Flynn's created world.

IIRC at the end of the movie we see Sam downloading the whole thing onto a USB before switching off the old super computer.

Correct. The grid as it was only existed inside that machine under the arcade. Amazingly reliable machine though that in all those years it never once broke down or needed repairs or any TLC.

I liked the fancy USB Sam had at the end of the movie. Pity that was just a movie prop, it looked cool with the lights and fancy look.
 
I'm pretty sure The Grid in 'Legacy' existed exclusively within the hardware Flynn had stashed and running in the arcade's basement, not in Encom's servers. That's what kept everything contained and prevented Clu from simply buggering off into the relative infinite vastness of the internet, hence the need to *physically* escape Flynn's created world.

IIRC at the end of the movie we see Sam downloading the whole thing onto a USB before switching off the old super computer.
CLU wrecks the Internet? That's a film I'd watch.
 
CLU wrecks the Internet? That's a film I'd watch.
He'd probably just derez the second he runs into a modern firewall or anti-virus scan. He's only a demi god in his world; in ours he's just a line of code. Seriously, compared to what he's used to, the internet would be like diving into a primordial ocean full of Lovecraftian nightmares and apex predators.

If he survived at all he'd run right back to the grid and shut down all the i/o ports behind him.
 
I liked Tron and Tron: Legacy, we watched them with our son in the fall when we got Disney+. I admit that a 3rd movie intrigues me, but with Jared Leto in it, I don't know if I'll watch it. He always seems to play creepy guys. It worked in Blade Runner 2049 and to some extent in American Psycho, but I don't think I want to watch a movie if he plays the main character.
 
He'd probably just derez the second he runs into a modern firewall or anti-virus scan. He's only a demi god in his world; in ours he's just a line of code. Seriously, compared to what he's used to, the internet would be like diving into a primordial ocean full of Lovecraftian nightmares and apex predators.

If he survived at all he'd run right back to the grid and shut down all the i/o ports behind him.
I didn't say it would be a long movie ;)
 
And then there was the time before Tron Legacy where the Tron 2.0 game was considered a canon sequel.

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Jeez, it was so outstanding it's one of the very few I've ever purchased !

Horses for courses I suppose.


IKR? I still have “Derezzed” on my phone

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I've seen Legacy twice, but it never occurred to me until I was watching the clip up thread that when the programs die, they're breaking up into pixels.
 
What about artists like Jean Michael Jarré do you like his music?
I have an album of his somewhere.
Oxygene was one of the first LP's I purchased way back in the 1970's. Along with Going For The One by Yes, Deep Purple's Machine Head and Rainbow Rising.

I have a number of Jarré's other albums. I thought he was well known in the states - his Houston gig was a mass event :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendez-vous_Houston
 
how did Flynn steal that laser from Encom?

Who says he stole it? Even if he wasn't actually the CEO of Encom after the first movie (and I honestly can't remember), he still would have been rich from all of the profits from "Space Paranoids." He could have bought the laser or made his own. (Good thing that he & Encom didn't end up financially ruined from the video game crash of 1983.)

Oh and Quorra, how did she become flesh and blood?

As for Clu what the heck, what exactly was he going to bring into the real world? if it was only he and his army they don't exactly have weapons, and it didn't seem objects apart from clothing could move between worlds.

To me, Clu's plan never made any sense. I figure that the laws of mass/energy conversion still apply. It takes impossible amounts of energy just to create something the size of a person. So you can probably only get out of the Grid an amount of matter equal to what you put in. Since Kevin Flynn entered the Grid in 1989, I figure that, using his disc, Clu himself could manifest in the real world, basically materializing his mind into young Kevin Flynn's physical pattern. However, Clu bringing his army into our world doesn't seem even remotely possible. The power required just isn't there. And even if they did materialize in our world, how would his ships work? They don't seem to have any actual propulsion and don't need any in the Grid because the laws of physics don't have to work there the way that they do here.

On the subject of Qora, I assume that she used the energy from Kevin Flynn's mass in order to materialize in our world. But since she's not based on a real world physical pattern, it makes me wonder how she works. Does she have any of the usual biological functions that a real woman would have? Does she even have skin underneath that outfit? As a computer program, there's no particular reason why she should. And I don't recall seeing Sam eat or drink anything or go to the bathroom when he was in the Grid, so I really don't know what conclusions I'm supposed to draw.

There was a really odd line in Tron where the MCP threatens a program with ending up inside a pocket calculator so even inside those there is a Tron like environment. Just trying to put that into something visual I just can't. So even calculators have walking talking programs inside them in the Tron universe.

In a calculator, maybe, like, each number is its own person. Watch out for 5, man, he's a real asshole. Especially if he's just been divided.

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I would just like to mention that I love Michael Sheen's performance in this movie. It's completely bonkers and feels like it belongs in a totally different movie but I enjoy it a lot!

I don't much care for the original Tron. Not only did they not have the technology to pull off what they were trying to achieve but they didn't have the visual panache either. Tron Legacy was lightyears ahead on both counts. And while I appreciate that the movie is a sequel instead of a reboot, it also seemed to me that it's a sequel very specifically designed to be accessible to people who hadn't seen the first movie (which I hadn't when I first saw Legacy). I only wish that there wasn't such a drop-off between the theatrical experience vs. the home theater experience. I'd love to see it again on the big screen in 3-D.
 
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