That's pretty much the way I feel about her character.
Was Troy a psychotherapist too?
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That's pretty much the way I feel about her character.
Health related yes, but Troi isn't a physician, she doesn't deal with physical injuries or illnesses, her area is mental problems.
Given that she also advises the Captain, Troi is likely in her own little division, which consists of a single person, herself. She reports only to the Captain and the First Officer.
In a community of only a thousand people, there are "plenty" of therapists? What does that say about the crew that this is seen as a requirement?
Can Troi prescribe medication? I've never seen her do so.
If not, she's not an MD and therefore don't answer to Beverly.
If not, she's not an MD and therefore don't answer to Beverly.
Neither are nurses or techs like Simon Tarses, but they answer to Crusher. I'll be honest with you, if she's wearing a blue suit, & is somehow assigned as a health practitioner, that's clearly in Bev's wheelhouse. Unless we are somehow considering mental health sciences as a separate science division, like astrophysics, I don't see how Troi can be anything but medical personnel
Frankly, I consider it a grave injustice that there was never an episode that directly addressed a subject that would have had them both as the featured parties in a collaborative medical story. Such a shame really
For one thing MDs know very little about psychiatry as a rule. They wouldn't be competent to supervise a psychiatrist, they don't know enough about the domain to order them one way or the other. This isn't true of nurses who's job is completely understood by doctors.
You go to medical school and then you specialize.
You can't be a psychiatrist without being a medical doctor (or osteopathic Doctor) first.
Some people have duel specialities, and keep getting more specialities, but completing a residency (in America) takes one to 5 years depending on what you plan on specializing in.
On the other hand to be a "therapist" she can do as little to get certified for that by filling out a few forms on the back of a cornflakes box, or believing in herself a lot.
The Price.
DENNIS!!!!!!!
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The lonely among us
Inside Man
You can't be a psychiatrist without being a medical doctor (or osteopathic Doctor) first.
Some people have duel specialities, and keep getting more specialities, but completing a residency (in America) takes one to 5 years depending on what you plan on specializing in.
On the other hand to be a "therapist" she can do as little to get certified for that by filling out a few forms on the back of a cornflakes box, or believing in herself a lot.
The Price.
DENNIS!!!!!!!
Tinman
The lonely among us
Inside Man
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That's not true of psychologists though. Maybe she's just a psychologist. The litmus test on that is whether she's allowed to prescribe medication, that is the prerogative of MDs.
Do you really think a replicator remembers that humans shouldn't be allowed to order endless volumes of oxycodone?
Still as a psychologist she'd probably come under the purview of the Medical Department. In the US Navy, a clinical psychologist is part of the Navy Medical Service Corps.
Yes if Starfleet is organized like the Navy, which it probably is, then you're right.
And yet, in the hospital where I'm a tech, there is a psychiatric unit, & the head administrator of this hospital is an MD, who oversees all the units, including psych
Bev was in charge of Starfleet medical. To be sure, that institution has mental health facilities of some kind, which she presided over. It is under the umbrella of the medical branch, & her posting is chief executive administrator of said branch. I just can't see it any other way. A regular MD isn't over Troi, but the CMO? They'd have to be qualified in an all encompassing way to hold that post, just like the president of my hospital.
Does that mean Troi must report to her on every detail of her practice? I doubt it, but it's still under her office. Hell, I've seen Bev working on Data, & he isn't even a biological life form. The lady's got cred.
Well, she did cut his wires and rendered him inactive in "The Game", if my memory serves me well.
I'm just amused that Dee was taught psychology at a university on Betazed, probably by mostly full telepaths who understand the psychological process from looking inside minds, not from cross referencing observed behaviour vs. statistical models.
Psychology on Betazed is probably as bullshit a course as "ice cream appreciation" at a human community college.
Psychology on Betazed is probably as bullshit a course as "ice cream appreciation" at a human community college.
There is a conceit that they want Doctors in charge of the administerial duties at a hospital, but the more paper they have to push, the less actually medicine they a have time left to practice... Which is why we are told Bev returned to the 1701D in Season 3.
She missed being a Doctor.
I think a term we should have remembered before now is "Assistant Counsellor" which was Ezri's job when she was force joined with Dax.
Which sound's more like an apprenticeship, than a job you train up for at school.
How many "Assistant Counsellors" did Dee have on the Enterprise?
She missed being a Doctor.
I think a term we should have remembered before now is "Assistant Counsellor" which was Ezri's job when she was force joined with Dax.
Which sound's more like an apprenticeship, than a job you train up for at school.
How many "Assistant Counsellors" did Dee have on the Enterprise?
I imagine there's other counselling staff, including assistants, but the only time I ever heard it mentioned that there was any, was in The Loss, but I may be forgetting some
Answering the question of who I'd most likely be in the Star Trek universe... Simon Tarses. I'd be Simon Tarses. How exciting. lol
