I like to think that after NEM, Worf crashed landed on a primitive planet. He had many adventures and finally made his own kingdom by his own hand.........but that is another story.
Was there ever an official explanation in Nemesis...
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I like to think after NEM, Worf went "shit I'm an ambassador" and ran all the way back to Qo'nos!
Nah, it's just a case of Berman hates DS9...in First Contact they wanted to blow up the Defiant as a show of how tough the Borg were...Ira Steven Behr said "Go for it, but I'll show the Defiant clearly not destroyed in the very next episode"
Though in the end Voyager showed Admiral Hayes miraculously returned from the dead...so who knows?!
Nah, it's just a case of Berman hates DS9...in First Contact they wanted to blow up the Defiant as a show of how tough the Borg were...Ira Steven Behr said "Go for it, but I'll show the Defiant clearly not destroyed in the very next episode"
Though in the end Voyager showed Admiral Hayes miraculously returned from the dead...so who knows?!
Yeah, I'd be perfectly happy to declare all three post-Generations TNG films non-canon.
Probably has something to do with the earth shattering "kaboom"...
lol, I love how you say that Burton shouldn't have directed a TNG movie because he'd only directed a bunch of episodes of Trek and other stuff.
When Frakes directed First Contact, what other movies had he done? OH! So I guess a guy with only TV-episode-directing experience really CAN direct a big movie and make it good!
Maybe not, but he's likely dead due to it.
The Dominion wiped out The Maquis at a time when Tom was in jail...do you really think they left all those already-caught Maquis members alive?
Then this leads me to another Nemesis gripe... the flagship of the Federation was serving as a party bus for the Riker/Troi wedding??? They had nothing better to do than shuttle people back and forth? What if Ensign Red Shirt was getting married, would they do the same thing for him?
And I imagine the last person Will or Deanna would have wanted at the wedding was Tom Riker.
What flagship?
The movies never indicated that the Enterprise-E held this status, or indeed any preferred status. Quite to the contrary, ST:FC established that Starfleet felt the ship was worthless in fighting the Borg. No reason not to use her as a shuttle, really.
The movie maintains the internal logic quite nicely. If the ship is at liberty to investigate a positronic signature on a random planet at a whim, then logically she should also be at liberty to cater for other whims of her skipper, such as the arrangements of a personally important wedding.
Timo Saloniemi
I think that being the Enterprise, it's fairly implied that it would be the flagship...
On the contrary, Starfleet would have deployed the Enterprise if Picard had not been in command.
Probably a case of what Admiral Chakotay (or what ever the guy was called in Gambit) called "detached duty" with the Enterprise's Mission at her discretion, but I agree, this does maintain internal logic, but isn't reliant on the assertions above.
The Enterprise was never mentioned as the flagship until 1701-D on TNG. There is no reason to assume that 1701-E would keep the flagship roll.
As said above, only the E-D was considered special in that respect. There seemed to be nothing exceptional about Kirk's TOS ride, and the E-A was only seen in a couple of movies so it's hard to tell. The E-B was seen even less, but at least there we could speculate that she was the biggest thing around at the time, and thus perhaps deserved some sort of preferential treatment. The E-C is again relatively obscure.
If that were true, Starfleet would simply have told Riker to throw Picard in the brig (or kill him) and take the ship to battle.
Clearly, what Picard tells his crew is a comforting lie. Starfleet does not have faith in Picard, that much is clear. But apparently it doesn't trust Riker, Data and Worf, either. Or then the ship is a dud. Or perhaps both... What better place for celebrated but untrustworthy officers than a ship they can't achieve much with?
I think Kirk got the same treatment at the end of ST4:TVH...
Timo Saloniemi
I think that the fact that the E-A was sent to meet Chancellor Gorkon...in lieu of an ambassador or Federation Official...implies some status the ship holds - particularly since at least 3 members of its crew hold the rank of Captain...
Could Starfleet trust Riker to do that though? It's no secret that the crew of the Enterprise was fairly loyal to one another...
It does trust Worf...because the implication of FC was that Starfleet ordered the Defiant to Earth, but that Sisko should stay behind (which, with his wife being killed by the Borg is unsurprising) and that like the Enterprise where Picard's senior staff might defer to him if the ship were taken into battle, Worf was the only member of DS9's crew who SF trusted not to do that...Clearly, what Picard tells his crew is a comforting lie. Starfleet does not have faith in Picard, that much is clear. But apparently it doesn't trust Riker, Data and Worf, either. Or then the ship is a dud. Or perhaps both... What better place for celebrated but untrustworthy officers than a ship they can't achieve much with?
Flagship or not, it just seems like a waste of resourses to use a Starfleet vessel of that magnitude as a wedding limo. Runabouts or shuttle crafts, sure, but not the Enterprise. I get that it serves the purpose of moving the plot along, but that's it.
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It shouldn't have been difficult for Riker and Picard to arrange things from the opposite POV, though. Why not have the wedding when the E-E is scheduled to leave Earth for a mission that takes her past Betazed? It's not as if we would have heard of other factors affecting the scheduling.
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And Picard and Riker probably had a fair amount of currency (not that sort of currency) with Starfleet Command, to be able to say "Do you mind if we use the E-E as a wedding car..." Riker's father's pretty well connected as well so it might have been his wedding present!
