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Was there anything that JJ really messed up on? (Spoilers)
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Oh, I didn't get that voice mail until early 1950. Imagine my embarrassment
Or it was kept in a museum, and he stole it from there.They didn't just leave him lying around in the open, they probably buried the remains.
And then Kylo dug them up. Which makes the whole thing even more creepier.
The only thing to me that stood out was that Finn activates the lightsaber with the red button near the top. We have seen both Luke and Anakin turn that same saber on using the box in the middle.
My first thought was that Snoke found it and salvaged it as a part of different Dark Side artifacts that he was collecting. He used them as tools of manipulation against Ben, but I imagine the helmet was one of several artifacts that Snoke has.
According to the visual dictionary, Kylo pulled the thing "out of a funeral pyre on Endor", so yeah, it was left lying around...under a pile of ash and charcoal...in the middle of a forest...on a nowhere, stone-age tech planet...in the outer rim. I hardly think a few extra feet of soil would have made it much more difficult to find. Particularly if the person looking for it is 1) force sensitive and 2) has a personal connection to the former owner.
Besides, why would anyone need to take precautions? Its a lump of melted metal.
Besides, why would anyone need to take precautions? Its a lump of melted metal.
If it were metal, burning wood wouldn't generate nearly enough heat to melt it. Besides, we can clearly see in Jedi that the fire is engulfing the helmet, and it isn't anywhere near deforming. Realistically, Kylo should have had a charred but non-melted mask.
Further, we see in the movie that objects associated with a Jedi hold power. Luke's light saber was powerful enough to trigger Rey, so it stands to reason that the Vader mask would have the same power and was probably kept in a safe location.
I suspect it wasn't the sabre calling to Rey per-se, but the kyber crystal within. It's established in both TCW & Rebels that the crystal that a padawan will use to build their first sabre will call to them during their trials. Presumably these things somehow resonate through the force. I think it's safe to say Vader's helmet didn't contain a force resonating kyber crystal.
So yeah, my point stands that whatever it's made of, the helmet is an inert lump of melted slag and there was no reason to take any extra precautions in it's disposal.
So yeah, my point stands that whatever it's made of, the helmet is an inert lump of melted slag and there was no reason to take any extra precautions in it's disposal.
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Endor fuel can't melt durasteel beams.
Ah yes that bother me. When the seat of the Republic is destroy(5 planets) hardly no one seem sot really care. Once they destroy Death Star 3 the resistance is cheering like they have just defeated all of the first order and they seem to forget that they probably lost way more. Hello you guys just lost 5 whole planets with most likely billions of lives. Not much to celebrate.
Unless someone tried to destroy the site before Kylo got to it. Maybe another Knight of Ren trying to erase Vader's legacy, and secure their place in the order. In fighting is common among the Dark Siders, it seems.
They didn't just leave him lying around in the open, they probably buried the remains.
And then Kylo dug them up. Which makes the whole thing even more creepier.
I don't think he had to dig them up. Luke probably got so wasted during that Ewok victory party. They were celebrating a decisive victory against the Empire and there was all that Ewok liquor.
When Luke woke up the next day he had a mighty hangover and just didn't remember where he burned his dad's remains. So there was no burial.
I doubt he ever told anybody about this, though. His memory of the whole night is rather fuzzy but he does remember going into a tent with 3 naked Ewoks.
Do we know if Rey is half-Ewok? What would give it away?
Alternatively, he could have been so drunk he told everybody where the pyre was, and some nefarious agent whisked it away...
It is adequate. Just having a little bit of fun.
She's a man-eater?
I agree there's nothing wrong with having multiple desert planets/ice planets, etc, but it did annoy me in this movie, nonetheless - primarily because a large part of the movie felt like it was deliberately designed to race from one 'exotic location' to the next, just because that's what the original movies tended to. Problem being, none of these locations felt exotic anymore, just minor variations on Lucasfilm's greatest hits. If they hadn't made so much effort to try and awe me with the landscape, or if they had just made do with a few less locations and given the story some more time to breath, or if they had just made a little more effort to make each location feel distinctive and interesting (deserts don't have to be filled with sand dunes and brown tones, for instance - and why is it that a franchise that goes out of its way to create the most outlandish looking aliens possible continues to use so many locations that just look like earth? Where are the alien plants and the alien skies, etc), then it wouldn't have bothered me.
Star Wars has always featured planets with only one type of environment based on Earth ecosystem, probably due to them being based on old adventure serials, and not serious scifi. Despite this, Star Wars has always had a grounded sense of realism, with locations people can relate to, and craft and sets that look like something that could exist on Earth. I personally would rather have a desert world than a totally alien environment probably because it would have to be filmed on a set against green screen.
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