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Was there a 3rd '5-Year Mission'?

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I've read that there was a 2nd '5-Year Mission' between TMP and TWOK. Some of the novels confirm it. I'm reading Death Count right now and they have the maroon jackets from TWOK and Chekov is a Lieutenant (not yet promoted to Lieutenant Commander).

So I'm wondering if there was (or should be) a 3rd '5-Year Mission' between ST V and ST VI. There are 6 years between the two movies.

Any thoughts?
 
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My feeling is to say no to a 3rd 5-year mission. If there was any sort of mission, I would call is an ongoing mission.
 
Yep I would call it an ongoing mission as well. Lots of it was told in the DC Comics and a few novels.
 
The whole "5-year mission" thing is overrated. Starship missions can come in any duration. There's no reason to treat 5 years as some sort of mandatory length just because we heard it in the opening narration of TOS/TAS.

We have limited canonical evidence (from TMP and VGR: "Q2") that the mission depicted in TOS was actually 5 years long, and the modern novel continuity reflects this. The novel continuity also incorporates the notion that there was a second 5-year mission after TMP -- which still leaves about 7 years between that mission and TWOK, years in which, according to Mere Anarchy: The Darkness Drops Again, the Enterprise was Admiral Kirk's personal flagship under Spock's command, occasionally going on special missions under Kirk and otherwise serving as a training vessel and equipment testbed. The Enterprise-A's mission after ST V has always been interpreted as open-ended, not of any specified length. We have reason to believe that it ended sometime before ST VI, however, since that film opened with Kirk reassembling the scattered crew for one last mission (although the final edit is ambiguous on this).
 
The whole "5-year mission" thing is overrated. Starship missions can come in any duration.

Yep. In ST VI, Sulu and Excelsior were returning from a three-year mission:

"Stardate 9521.6, Captain's log, USS Excelsior, Hikaru Sulu commanding. After three years, I have concluded my first assignment as master of this vessel, cataloging gaseous planetary anomalies in Beta Quadrant. We're heading home under full impulse power. I'm pleased to report that ship and crew have functioned well."
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek_VI:_The_Undiscovered_Country
 
Yep I would call it an ongoing mission as well. Lots of it was told in the DC Comics and a few novels.
Agreed, and it seems that, as you correctly point out, the vast majority of stories told aboard the Enterprise-A were published within the pages of the two DC Comics series, from early 1987 to 1988, and then from 1989 to 1996.

Chronologically speaking, the series covered much of that vessel's eight-year service history, from early 2286 (immediately post-ST IV) to at least 2290 (we see Sulu's commmand-taking of the Excelsior during the series, and him leaving the Enterprise-A behind forever), but it appeared to end maybe a year or two prior to the events of Star Trek VI (though still working characters like Admiral Cartwright and Valeris into those pre-movie storylines).

By contrast, we actually received very, very few original prose stories set aboard the Enterprise-A in the Pocket novel series, not counting the movie novelizations themselves. From what I remember, the list is a pretty short one:

- Star Trek IV (novelization)
- Star Trek V (novelization)
- Star Trek VI (novelization)
- Probe
- Best Destiny (framing sections)
- The Rift (post-Capt. Pike sections)
- Mind Meld
- The Ashes of Eden
- Sarek
- Shadows on the Sun
- The Captain's Table: War Dragons
(post-TOS sections)
- In the Name of Honor
- Starfleet Academy (novelization)

Also, the excellent novel Cast No Shadow by James Swallow contains at least one flashback-chapter to the years of the Enterprise-A's service, but even when you factor in the movie and video game novelizations, that's a pretty damn small list of stories.

What's worse is that most of those books feature separate narrative or chronological threads, meaning portions take place aboard other starships in previous eras, with only some portions occurring during the later movie era proper. Novels like The Rift and Best Destiny, for example, both devote considerable page-space to events taking place decades earlier, with the Ent-A sections sometimes serving as mere "framing" narratives.

Even more interesting is the fact that Pocket and Paramount commissioned so many stories that were set aboard the NCC-1701-A, but after the events of Star Trek VI, when that starship was supposedly to be set for decommissioning. Suddenly, we see the ship putting in for a month of orbital drydock over Vulcan to bring her back into serviceable condition following the battle over Khitomer in the movie, ostensibly for future novels to come.

It's pretty easy to see why this was done -- at that point in time (early 1992 to around early 1994, or thereabouts), the storyline of the projected seventh feature film had not yet been officially announced or locked in stone, and there was no inkling yet that the Enterprise-B would feature prominently in the opening of ST: Generations, as it eventually would do.

Thus, authors like A.C. Crispin and Michael Jan Friedman had what was for those months and years a temporary wide-open playing field to continue using the Enterprise-A, until plans for the seventh movie were at last announced, and the destruction of the NCC-1701-A in The Ashes of Eden became a viable concept.

Getting back to the original post above, again, most of the eight years' worth of voyages of the Enterprise-A are chronicled not in the pages of the Pocket novels, but rather in the two DC Comics series, all issues of which are now available on the recent DVD-ROM collection; and there are some excellent stories told during those years of her service history.

Indeed, I've always found it a rather peculiar phenomenon that more stories set between Star Trek IV and Star Trek VI were never commissioned by Pocket Books and Paramount; coming off of the rather-catastrophic and far-reaching events of the "Genesis trilogy" of films, there's far more emotional depth to be mined there with the original crew than in previous eras, in my opinion.

And given how much more ephemeral and less visible comic book stories and issues tend to be in the public's eye as a general thing, most of that era's storytelling has been harder to keep track of (barring trade paperback reprints), compared to the far more visible novels (which tend to get reprinted and circulated into "mainstream" outlets like libraries, far beyond the scope of comic books).
 
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The Enterprise-A's mission after ST V has always been interpreted as open-ended, not of any specified length. We have reason to believe that it ended sometime before ST VI, however, since that film opened with Kirk reassembling the scattered crew for one last mission (although the final edit is ambiguous on this).
Correct, although, to be sure, I think that whole notion probably comes more from the early Lawrence Konner/Mark Rosenthal script drafts (depicting the "de-retirement" of the now-retired main command crew) than from the later Nick Meyer/Denny Martin Flynn drafts, which run more or less identical to the finished release cut of the movie itself (the pre-Valeris, "Saavik-as-traitor" stuff notwithstanding).

In those early drafts, we get a montage of Kirk's crew getting reactivated into the service from their new civilian lives -- Sulu driving a cab, Scotty fishing on a lake, Uhura hosting a late-night call-in radio show, etc. The release version of Star Trek VI clearly indicates that Kirk's command staff are still very much in active service, though also very, very near full retirement (i.e., Scotty mentioning his boat).

The only iffy component here is Captain Spock's suddenly-revealed status as Federation Special Envoy (shocked expressions are shown on the faces of Enterprise crew members other than Kirk in this scene), but even this could be interpreted as a secretive, necessary ruse during the two months following the Praxis explosion, overlapping with Spock's duties as first officer aboard the starship.

From the way Kirk and his command crew effortlessly take their stations at the bridge (within minutes of coming aboard in Spacedock), it's clear that this was simply one more mission for them aboard the Enterprise-A, in what was likely a recent series of missions; that the starship was possibly recalled to Earth in order for the captain and his staff to participate in the C-in-C's briefing (the ship had just been selected as the designated UFP rendezvous vessel for Gorkon's peregrination by the admiralty, without Kirk's knowledge).

Also, there are a couple of DC Comics stories set very close to the timeframe of Star Trek VI (one of them featuring Valeris on the verge of taking her place as starship helm officer), while Howard Weinstein's novella Mere Anarchy: The Blood-Dimmed Tide is set in 2291, well into the starship's service history; and Wildstorm's Star Trek Special one-shot features a story set aboard the Enterprise-A in 2292 (the year prior to The Undiscovered Country), depicting the starship under Captain Kirk performing some rather routine exploratory duties when a Starfleet distress signal is responded to.
 
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The only iffy moment for me in that briefing scene in ST VI is when Bones asks where is Sulu and Kirk replies 'Captain Sulu...' as if Bones did not know he was a captain.
 
I was gonna say that this seems to indicate that the Enterprise crew doesn't congregate very much... but it also seems to indicate McCoy never checks his spacebook. Which is pretty believable, I suppose.
 
The only iffy moment for me in that briefing scene in ST VI is when Bones asks where is Sulu and Kirk replies 'Captain Sulu...' as if Bones did not know he was a captain.

I figured it was because McCoy was only a Commander by rank, and Kirk was reminding him that he should say 'captain' as a sign of respect, and not just 'Sulu'. I could be wrong..
 
The only iffy moment for me in that briefing scene in ST VI is when Bones asks where is Sulu and Kirk replies 'Captain Sulu...' as if Bones did not know he was a captain.

I figured it was because McCoy was only a Commander by rank, and Kirk was reminding him that he should say 'captain' as a sign of respect, and not just 'Sulu'. I could be wrong..

That's the way I took that comment as well.
 
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