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Was pretty excited for this show.. but ultimately underwhelmed...

So Random_Spock IYO what Picard had in this new series was Irumodic Syndrome?
Yes. His behavior changes, acting inappropriate at times and the hallucinations towards the end seem to point to late stage Irumodic syndrome.

He was trying to do what he could before it killed him. The syndrome reminds of how Alzheimers can affect someone, exaggerating a persons behavior. Picard could be arrogant at times, but the syndrome just made it worse.
 
Yes. His behavior changes, acting inappropriate at times and the hallucinations towards the end seem to point to late stage Irumodic syndrome.

He was trying to do what he could before it killed him. The syndrome reminds of how Alzheimers can affect someone, exaggerating a persons behavior. Picard could be arrogant at times, but the syndrome just made it worse.
Feels appropriate.
 
For a serialised show it makes a difference. You can cut out all the fluff and have a more coherent story.
What do you mean, “fluff”? Are you referring to stand alone episodes that don’t move the arc forward? I don’t think PIC had any standalone.

So, are you saying that you only wanted 8 episodes of PIC? Or are you saying that you simply didn’t like 2 or 3 episodes?

Lets say the producers came to you and told you they would build the next season around what you (thribs) like. You tell them, season 1 should only have been 8 episodes. They say okay and season 3 is only 8 episodes. But you think 3 of them suck, so you go back and tell them the season was still too long. Should only be 5 episodes. Next season is 5 episodes but they don’t change what you thought sucked in the previous eliminated episodes. See where I’m going? Complaining about the number of episodes seems like something, but it’s really nothing because it doesn’t get at the root of your real complaint.

My point is that I don’t think complaining about the number of episodes makes sense. What you’re really complaining about are some episodes you didn’t like. If you’d liked every episode, why would you want fewer of them?


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I don't feel like Picard was entitled or out of character.

This is the guy who saved humanity many times, and prevented wars a dozen times. If he asked for every ship in Starfleet they should have known to give it to him no questions asked.

And he's also someone who believed Starfleet would always do the right thing in the end, so when they reject the right thing and him of course he is going to take it hard.

Frankly Picard didn't owe anyone a thing after everything he did for everyone over the years.
 
Some part of him still thought Starfleet would do the right thing. That is more true to Picard than playing shrewd politics in a desperate time. Although he was a diplomat he didnt enjoy pointless functions and often disregarded them and took the enterprise to go do more important things.
 
Some part of him still thought Starfleet would do the right thing. That is more true to Picard than playing shrewd politics in a desperate time. Although he was a diplomat he didnt enjoy pointless functions and often disregarded them and took the enterprise to go do more important things.
But why would
Starfleet trust him at this specific point? He was not willing to compromise at all or willing to consider other points of view.
 
Are you saying Picard would have started compromising on his beliefs in order to get a crew? That doesnt seem more in character with TNG Picard, when he got it into his head something was morally wrong he usually stood up against it
 
Are you saying Picard would have started compromising on his beliefs in order to get a crew? That doesnt seem more in character with TNG Picard, when he got it into his head something was morally wrong he usually stood up against it
Even if he is morally right his approach to Starfleet is wrong. More than that Picards solution is to give up. It comes across as arrogant.
 
Picards approach to Clancy was ineffective but Starfleet was in the wrong. Straight up wrong about the ban and also not providing him resources. And the show points this out later that Starfleet betrayed itself.

But my point was none of this is Picard being out of character or makes the show bad.
 
Picards approach to Clancy was ineffective but Starfleet was in the wrong. Straight up wrong about the ban and also not providing him resources. And the show points this out later that Starfleet betrayed itself.

But my point was none of this is Picard being out of character or makes the show bad.
Yes, the show bears that out. But, the confrontation lacks that information at that time.

I agree it is in character for Picard, and it's also consistent with Starfleet.
 
Yes, the show bears that out. But, the confrontation lacks that information at that time.

I agree it is in character for Picard, and it's also consistent with Starfleet.
Yep. And he was right to ask for help, just not in the fashion he did. But that was due to the Irimotic syndrome making him behave inappropriately.
 
If you think real Picard is dead because it's a copy then they're all dead from using the transporters. And they died 100 other times when crazy space anomalies duplicated or the timelines slightly changed, not to mention phase shifting and body transformations in TNG.

That is Fan theory and I never agreed with it. The transporters per show dialogue break you down and put your molecules/atoms back exactly the same way. You are even conscious during transport....as evidenced with Barkley. So no you are wrong here. As for time changes people constantly confuse ALTERTED timelines with ALTERNATE timelines. But I'm assuming you are talking about Altered. Once things are put back in place like Yesterday's Enterprise you are the same person. That was an altered timeline and did not result in an Alternate Timeline. So they are all the same people.
 
Nowhere near as bad as what Picard did and you know it.

I agree. We had one episode where it happened. And it wasnt really clear or well thought out. They haven't made a practice of doing it since.
Plus at least a transporter copy is still human. Picard is now a synth copy. No getting around that I'm afraid.
 
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