Well not really. Stewart is 80 now. So I'm guessing 2 more seasons. Killing picard off the first season was a mistake. They should have waited till the last season.
Was pretty excited for this show.. but ultimately underwhelmed...
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Well not really. Stewart is 80 now. So I'm guessing 2 more seasons. Killing picard off the first season was a mistake. They should have waited till the last season.
At the risk of bringing up memories of our Enterprise watching brethren from years past, Not. Dead.
But I notice you sidestepped the question of what difference it makes whether he is technically a copy or not.
Maybe so. But people might lose interest over time. As it is, The Orvillle seems to have attracted a lot of actors, writers, and even producers from the original Star Trek: The Next Generation
Maybe so. But this kind of reminds me of The Terminator in that the Terminator does not remember the events of each new movie as he is respawned.
Indeed so. And I've yet to hear a substantial argument about what difference it makes. I've heard a very emotional one but not a very logical one. So, with due respect to those who consider Picard super important I simply find that him being a copy or not to be a nonissue. I also think that this is a detail that people are allowing to ruin their enjoyment for rather trivial reasons.
I think Picard had a lot of potential at least when the show was being advertised. But one must take into consideration that like Discovery, Picard is being aired on the CBS Streaming service. If Picard would have been shown on regular TV, like its predecessor ST:TNG, it might have been edited moreclosely.
I agree with you that Picard was a mere copy.
I agree with you that Picard was a mere copy.
I don't think Picard is a copy. I think the question is a nonissue.
No worries. Could have been more clear. I see it like Kirk's essence being transferred from his body to Janice Lester's in "Turnabout Intruder" or Chakotay's spirit being separated in "Distant Voices" (I think). It's not the first time Trek has done this is my point.
Consciousness transfer has happened numerous times in Trek. Janice Lester, Spock's Katra, glowy alien balls of criminals, etc. In my opinion, all we are quibbling about here is the type of receptacle used and whether that makes the consciousness "real." I went to a convention in Tulsa back when Voyager was on the air, and they had one of the writers on (for the life of me I don't remember which one) and he said they would get letters complaining if they put the wrong pips on someone's collar. So from that point forward in the Q&A whenever he would talk about the craft of storytelling, or the character's journey and someone would ask some absurdly nitpickey question about minor details, he would just look at them and say "Pips." That's what I think of every time someone complains about Picard being dead or a copy, I just imagine the writers room saying "Pips."
And that's exactly so. To my mind the writers are treating him as Picard. Yeah, that's word of God type stuff but that's where I'm at. And, I think that wondering about Picard is honestly just looking for a reason to hate the show rather than engage it on its own terms.
Exactly. They have established numerous times that consciousness transfer is possible. So if we've established it is possible in multiple different ways, to look at this one way and say "No, THAT one doesn't work," just seems to me to be complaining to complain.
I've said this before--possibly earlier in this thread--but if he thinks he's Picard and he's played by Patrick Stewart, that's good enough for me.
Whether he's "really" Picard or just an incredible simulation is potentially good story fodder for them to explore, but the latter possibility doesn't delegitimize the character for me.
Whether he's "really" Picard or just an incredible simulation is potentially good story fodder for them to explore, but the latter possibility doesn't delegitimize the character for me.
I see. That is really something. I will have to check out the Turnabout Intruder and Distant Voices, Fireproof.
That sounds good to me, The Old Mixer. I guess it makes sense in a while that Picard would become an android since Picard defended Data in the Measure of a Man ST:TNG episode.
I agree with you about this. Yes.
I see.
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