I felt hope at times. More than I did with some of O'Brien's stories or the Doctor's. Both of those characters endured trauma with little comment. That's shocking and cruel.
Was pretty excited for this show.. but ultimately underwhelmed...
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That episode is suffused with love and self-sacrifice. Sad, yes. Dark, no. I'd even venture pointing us to light.
The one where he is in imaginary jail ... well, even that has humanity and sacrifice in it.
I see no light it letting a child go back to the woods. That's horrifying to me on a level nigh imaginable as a parent. That's nightmare levels of dark for me.
The imaginary jail one is dark and grim and rather cruel in its presentation. Picard has humanity and sacrifice in it, and more so than that episode.
Everything is always too something.
Especially in Star Trek land!
The irony is that the fan hatedom and obsessiveness is what was INVENTED by Trekkies but I think it's still more mellow than other fandoms.
Perhaps because there's nothing that hasn't been done before.
This is exactly the opposite of what the show has consistently maintained. The problem is that the show is interested in ethical evolution and social evolution not physical.
Which irritates the transhumans among the fandom.
why not make them like 12 century humans?
PIC Season 1 literally ends with every single social injustice over the past 15 years being overturned and Picard leading the Federation back into tolerance and enlightenment, so I don't know what the fuck it is you want out of this show.
Oh! Oh, I get it. You want the writing to be bad. Sorry, dude, but life is not black-and-white, and TNG was emotionally dishonest when it portrayed humans as such. I'd much rather have emotionally and thematically honest Star Trek that depicts an optimistic, progressive future still winning out, over the TNG vision of a white-washed universe of emotionally vapid cardboard cut-outs that never have to face difficult or complex moral choices or their own imperfections for more than an episode or two.
I mean, think about it. We've never heard of Klingon androids, or Cardassian androids, or Ferengi androids, or what-have-you. Why would the Federation find the absence of Romulan androids particularly notable? As far as we know, the technology only exists within the Federation.
I agree with this. S1 needed more time to breathe.
Exactly.
There are no pure people in real life. All of us are compromised by the institutions in which we live, and that reality ought to be reflected in our art when we're writing for adults. That doesn't mean you can't tell optimistic stories, or bright stories; but you shouldn't be pretending characters are pure when that status is inherently impossible.
They are like 12th Century Humans. Because Humans are the same now as then, and will be the same in 400 years. Humans have not changed; their cultures have changed.
Sounds accurate. And the New Humans mentioned in Gene Roddenberry's TMP novelization and seen in early-TNG went the way of New Coke.
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