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Was Nemesis Really That Bad or Just Poorly Timed?

The plot was weak
The direction was weak
The characterization was weak

that's why ST V is the only star trek that is worse.
 
Haha...touche. I guess my point on that is Shizon being bald (and a picture of young Picard being bald) seems like such a minor quibble compared to other things that can be legitimate complaints.

When a movie is good, I personally am willing to forget minor details they got wrong. If the rest of the movie is crap, then it's not so easy to forgive the minor stuff.

Did we see the same movie. One of the major points of the film was how the same person could go down radically different paths. Shizon was not supposed to be a 100% representation of Picard. More of a twisted mirror version of him.

I think my biggest problem with the whole thing is that it's not realistic to have a 17 year old bald kid passed on as supposed to be on the same caliber of intelligence and maturity as the real Patrick Stewart. It failed on every level possible. I've never seen Tom Hardy in anything else, and I don't know if he just can't act, or his lines were just so bad that he couldn't give them the proper feeling. He tries his hardest to do a Picard impression and it failed. Thinking about it right now, it would have been so simple to just have Patrick Stewart dub Tom Hardy's lines, so at least the character would SOUND like a young Patrick and not a 17 year old whiny brat. And the movie spent so much time and such buildup to introduce the character, when in the end the revelation of who he is is so completely undermined by inability of the actor to convincinly portray the role properly.

TPTB really poured a lot of effort in promoting the new Trek film. With NEM they seemed to want to just wash their hands of the TNG movie franchise. It just helped add to the sense of fatigue this film was swimming in.

Yes I agree. I remember the Simpson's parody when they did "Star Trek 12, so very tired". Funny it ended up being TNG and not TOS who that parody should have been pointed at.

Actually, that sounds much like the other 12-15% of the people on this board who didn't like the new Star Trek movie. I guess it's one of those generalities that can be used for any Star Trek movie, no offense to you intended, of course.

J.

I can understand the Star Trek purists when they have these sort of beefs. I guess I am not a Star Trek purist because I couldn't care less if there's inconsistencies as long as the movie is ENTERTAINING. The new Star Trek movie was entertaining. I agree that it's 70% not Star Trek, but the 30% Star Trek they left in is gold!!

Nemesis was easily 80% not TNG, and the 20% that was pretty much was the leftover crap from TNG, like watching one of the bad TNG episodes. And what's with this hardon to kill major characters anyway? First they kill Kirk, and then Data. What's the point?
 
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