Was Nemesis Really That Bad or Just Poorly Timed?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies I-X' started by CaptainJon, May 21, 2009.

  1. Quest_techie

    Quest_techie Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

    May 22, 2009
    The plot was weak
    The direction was weak
    The characterization was weak

    that's why ST V is the only star trek that is worse.
  2. GalaxyX

    GalaxyX Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jan 28, 2004
    When a movie is good, I personally am willing to forget minor details they got wrong. If the rest of the movie is crap, then it's not so easy to forgive the minor stuff.

    I think my biggest problem with the whole thing is that it's not realistic to have a 17 year old bald kid passed on as supposed to be on the same caliber of intelligence and maturity as the real Patrick Stewart. It failed on every level possible. I've never seen Tom Hardy in anything else, and I don't know if he just can't act, or his lines were just so bad that he couldn't give them the proper feeling. He tries his hardest to do a Picard impression and it failed. Thinking about it right now, it would have been so simple to just have Patrick Stewart dub Tom Hardy's lines, so at least the character would SOUND like a young Patrick and not a 17 year old whiny brat. And the movie spent so much time and such buildup to introduce the character, when in the end the revelation of who he is is so completely undermined by inability of the actor to convincinly portray the role properly.

    Yes I agree. I remember the Simpson's parody when they did "Star Trek 12, so very tired". Funny it ended up being TNG and not TOS who that parody should have been pointed at.

    I can understand the Star Trek purists when they have these sort of beefs. I guess I am not a Star Trek purist because I couldn't care less if there's inconsistencies as long as the movie is ENTERTAINING. The new Star Trek movie was entertaining. I agree that it's 70% not Star Trek, but the 30% Star Trek they left in is gold!!

    Nemesis was easily 80% not TNG, and the 20% that was pretty much was the leftover crap from TNG, like watching one of the bad TNG episodes. And what's with this hardon to kill major characters anyway? First they kill Kirk, and then Data. What's the point?