...ever really there? On the island, was he physically there? MAJOR SPOILERS Now, Luke obviously pulled the most powerful Force stunt of all – he wasn't really on not-Hoth, when everyone else thought he was. Hilarious, as his corporeality was then made essential to plot and the group's escape from their trap. But... During Rey's first lesson, she said she didn't see Luke there. Now, the literal fool that I am, I immediately thought ‘Oh, wow, he's not physically there! Such a spectacular twist! That's so cool! Wow!’. Then she's like ‘You've closed yourself off from the force...’, and I'm like... Meh. OK. Not so spectacular, but I'll take it. Then... At the end, he's actually not there, which is so much better. And I didn't see that coming, at all, despite noticing the obvious foreshadowing of the fact. I kept wondering how is he not dead? Then bam, he's really not there this time. Wow. But now I wonder, was he there for any of it? May be he passed away a year earlier. - Rey said he wasn't - His body completely vanished, as if it wasn't there to begin with. As if the mental exercise to appear at the rebel base made him unable to keep his faux-corporeal presence on the island any more. - His presence at the rebel base felt as physical until someone tried to kill him. - He was hanging out with Yoda. - He said ‘powerful light, powerful dark’. Was the powerful light the tree and the books, (which he burned, or him? If it was him, how could he be absent from the force? Counter-arguments: - Rey was specific she referred an absence in the Force (but she didn't understand the force, so we can't take her word for it) - He was shown present at both locations, which doesn't make sense if he wasn't at either (but the Jedi temple may be special in some way). - His clothes were real. - I suspect I may be high on medication.