What was a botanist doing in a cave anyway? There are no plants in caves.
Was Keiko always a Pah Wraith?
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Are you accusing me of trolling?
I wasn't even talking to you, wtf.
And even though I directed the original comment at him, neither was I talking about him, just making a statement. Soooo much miscommunication...like the O'brien's marriage. It's hard to be civil living with a Pah Wraith...
will have to do.
I'm really interested in the smashed Pah Wraith tablet from the first teaser of Picard...Who's the Pah Wraith going forward? I'm telling you, Keiko's coming back to Picard and she's going to show herself once and for all...Or it's Dr.Jurati...
You quoted his post with my quote in it. If I misunderstood then I apologize but some clarification would be helpful.
I don't even remember what we were talking about tbh
Perhaps it is similar to “Kirk drift”; I do not understand it either.
The other one I do not understand is that Harry Kim was supposedly given almost no lines or importance. I can remember many episodes where he played a pivotal role. If anything, I mostly remember him for being the damsel in distress that invariably either got abducted, had love problems, or both.
The other one is Jake Sisko supposedly being featured less near the end of Deep Space Nine, while he was in roughly half of the episodes for every season, which was probably part of the contract of he child actor who played him.
Really before seeing threads like this I never would have even got the idea that Keiko was disliked or a bitch to Miles.
There are some episodes in which I think both of them are bad at effectively communicating with each other, but that's just being human. And they clearly loved each other.
There are some episodes in which I think both of them are bad at effectively communicating with each other, but that's just being human. And they clearly loved each other.
Jeebus, all this polarization over a tertiary character, you would have thought Keiko was a new "hero" ship design.
This is also an argument as to why I do not believe the supposed currency-less œconomy of the U.F.P. can ever work.
These Starfleet officers that work for free, have shifts and free time are relocated with their families to dangerous places. I would actually say that Benjamin Sisko is a very bad parent for exposing his child to such dangers, after the other parent of said child already died for similar dangers, when there not even be financial compensation for it.
What man would expose his child to such dangers, not to mention living on a space station with few peers the latter's own age, when he can simply resign and raise his child in peace on Earth and be paid the same?
Ridiculous, irresponsible parenting to say the least. — Jake Sisko all but died many times.
The entire notion of all these officers doing this with no compensation is flagrantly implausible.
Riskless societies wither and are supplanted. The Sisko was being a good parent for showing his child a life of service.
Children are not some delicate crystalline structure that must be raised in first-world pristine environments for their parents to qualify as good persons. That kind of thinking has led to, I suspect some genuinely horrible parenting and the results from it in the last few decades, but I won't go into that. Way off topic.
And considering how quickly the entire federation was attacked in the subsequent war, defining a safe space isn't quite so easy. Maybe it is generational thinking. I was probably in the last few years of elementary school that did bomb drills. There was no overwhelming concept of safety. ICMB's didn't care where you lived. They still don't, but that's another matter.
Societies reward risk with financial compensation.
There has never been a society where people took risks without being compensated for it somehow, — which is why it's incredulous to believe they do this without due compensation when they can either do nothing, or something that involves less risk.
It's especially incredulous when it is clear from dialog that they very much look forward to their beaks and holidays.
I would certainly say that few children come out undamaged from being raised in a war area on a military base with little to no peers of their own, which is what Jake Sisko's childhood was.
Even in the real world, soldiers do not generally take their children with them on military bases the enemy is firing upon, and there are no families on military submarines. — This is psychologically most damaging to a child's development.
Which makes it all the stranger that the U.F.P. does not compensate in some way to draw more manpower to the war effort.
I still fails to explain how they are doing this for the same compensation they would have, sat they but simply around doing nothing.
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The entire "Does the UFP have money or not" thing is a conversation outside the scope of this somewhat silly thread. It's been discussed ad nauseum and will continue to be. I have stated my thoughts about it elsewhere and probably will get drawn into the discussion again, elsewhere, with nothing really genuine to add about it.
No, Keiko isn't a pah wraith. Yes the chief sometimes has a dismal existence, but it's not due to her. It's just fun to pile on his woes. There. Done.
No, Keiko isn't a pah wraith. Yes the chief sometimes has a dismal existence, but it's not due to her. It's just fun to pile on his woes. There. Done.
It'd be kinda cute if the Pah-Wraiths created Keiko in much the same way as the Prophets did Sisko... but Keiko wasn't the ultimate villain of the show. It would rhyme better if Dukat was the one created by the Pah Wraiths to serve as their Dark Emissary or whatever. We don't know much about his backstory, so maybe, but we don't have any evidence that says he didn't just stumble onto the Pah-Wraiths.
I mean, that does lead to thoughts that maybe they were manipulating Cardassia into occupation? Maybe the Cardassians were the Children of the Pah Wraiths?
Anyway, back to Sisko... I do think it was pretty responsible for him to raise his son on this quiet frontier station after all the tragedy of 2367. It should've been a lot safer than starship duty, especially with the Peace Treaty in place. He didn't know they were going to find the first stable Wormhole in existence and lead to the worst war in Federation history.
I mean, that does lead to thoughts that maybe they were manipulating Cardassia into occupation? Maybe the Cardassians were the Children of the Pah Wraiths?
Anyway, back to Sisko... I do think it was pretty responsible for him to raise his son on this quiet frontier station after all the tragedy of 2367. It should've been a lot safer than starship duty, especially with the Peace Treaty in place. He didn't know they were going to find the first stable Wormhole in existence and lead to the worst war in Federation history.
Who did not understand who he was in the first episode, but they later were revealed to have engineered his birth?
I have to say, I enjoyed Deep Space Nine, but after having been exposed to such things as Dark Matter or Attack on Titan, I find it hard to deal with such obvious retroactive continuity where episodes are made up as they go along.
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