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Was blowing up Romulus a good idea?

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How much do you think something like that costs?

$200 USD plus shipping. I googled it after my initial post, I had thought it was $500 USD for some reason. I'm a cheap bugger I'd have to be pretty damn rich to justify spending $200 on a book that's not even signed by the author :)
 
$200 USD plus shipping. I googled it after my initial post, I had thought it was $500 USD for some reason. I'm a cheap bugger I'd have to be pretty damn rich to justify spending $200 on a book that's not even signed by the author :)
Yes, to justify that kind of money you need at least an autograph from the author.
 
Since it seems Star Trek is going to keep on going backwards into Prequelville it doesn't seem to make much of a difference that Romulus blew up. We'll never see the fallout from this event so it's a mute point.
 
Since it seems Star Trek is going to keep on going backwards into Prequelville it doesn't seem to make much of a difference that Romulus blew up. We'll never see the fallout from this event so it's a mute point.

It doesn't seem like we will.
 
Blowing up both Romulus and Vulcan was incredibly stupid, and that is one of the many reasons I loathe Abramstrek. It is an alternate timeline so I can more or less ignore it, especially the destruction of Vulcan. However, blowing up Romulus supposedly happened in the real (or "Prime") timeline, and that is just something I find hard to stomach. Let JJ do his destructive thing in his own sandbox, but don't pollute the neighbouring sandbox in the process.

So I tend to view all - everything depicted in these movies - as happening in an alternate timeline even before Nero arrived. There are things that happened in them besides the destruction of Romulus (like the look and feel of the Kelvin, the galactic geography, etc.) that make me come to this view.

The sad thing, though, is that apparently there is uncertainty about this when it comes to post-NEM, post-DS9, post-VOY stories, since Paramount owns what has been shown in the JJ-movies and CBS had the TV rights. And there has to my knowledge not been any Lit Trek set in the Abramsverse, but I think the Lit Trek set up the the real timeline is now close to catching up to this event (the destruction of Romulus) that they're not allowed to mention. This would also be a problem if and when they might decide on a TV series set in this era.

Given all that, my recommendation would be to say to them "frak it" and totally ignore the destruction of Romulus and continue with the real Star Trek as if that never happened. My head canon says anyway that it was not Prime Spock that went back in time to Abramstek, but an Alt-Prime Spock not related to the real Spock (never mind that he was played by Leonard Nimoy). Just as it was an Alt-Prime George Kirk that got killed, etc.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it! :razz:

I'm thinking along the same lines. The Enterprise-E went back in time in "First Contact" to stop the Borg and created an alternate timeline which Star Trek: Enterprise took place in. We fast forward 200 years in this alternate timeline and it is this Romulus that blows up. Prime Spock is still on Prime Romulus. Alternate Romulus blows up and Alternate Spock is now in the alternate alternate (JJverse) timeline. I can hit the reset button just as well as TPTB can. :D
 
I'm thinking along the same lines. The Enterprise-E went back in time in "First Contact" to stop the Borg and created an alternate timeline which Star Trek: Enterprise took place in. We fast forward 200 years in this alternate timeline and it is this Romulus that blows up. Prime Spock is still on Prime Romulus. Alternate Romulus blows up and Alternate Spock is now in the alternate alternate (JJverse) timeline. I can hit the reset button just as well as TPTB can. :D

Spock on Romulus? What makes you say that?
 
Honestly, for all we know every time anyone time travelled into the past they jumped timelines. Just because the timeline you're in walks like a duck and talks like a duck doesn't mean it's your duck.
 
Honestly, for all we know every time anyone time travelled into the past they jumped timelines. Just because the timeline you're in walks like a duck and talks like a duck doesn't mean it's your duck.

Well, as long as it's not a lame duck.
 
Considering that was over a decade before Romulus was destroyed, this doesn't seem like a safe assumption.
 
In my opinion, the Romulans have never been handled right. They're claimed to be just SO passionate, as a people ... BIG emotions! And yet, they're just played like Human beings. Blow up Romulas - why not? - and start over ...
 
In my opinion, the Romulans have never been handled right. They're claimed to be just SO passionate, as a people ... BIG emotions! And yet, they're just played like Human beings. Blow up Romulas - why not? - and start over ...

I think they were even boring as Garak once said. I remember him saying that his assignment (as a spy) on Romulus was the only time when his cover was more exciting than his actual task.
 
I hear that! The Romulans in STAR TREK television really needed to be much more badassed and short-tempered. In fact, it would've been cool had the Remens been their technological side who visited Romulas long ago, to make friends, got their asses kicked and were made to serve the Romulan Empire, by providing all of their technology. Always have them onboard to repair and upgrade, whilst the Romulans chew up the scenery and bomb The Living Daylights out of innocent civilians, for shits and giggles ...
 
I hear that! The Romulans in STAR TREK television really needed to be much more badassed and short-tempered. In fact, it would've been cool had the Remens been their technological side who visited Romulas long ago, to make friends, got their asses kicked and were made to serve the Romulan Empire, by providing all of their technology. Always have them onboard to repair and upgrade, whilst the Romulans chew up the scenery and bomb The Living Daylights out of innocent civilians, for shits and giggles ...

I am not sure. The technologically advanced are usually the ones who win wars.
 
Indeed ... in the very deed! And no weapon that has ever been developed has not been used. Even the atom bomb, theorised to have the potential of igniting all of the earth's oxygen, upon detonation got used twice ... unnecessarily ... just for comparison, to make sure it worked. And whilst the rewards of such technology continue to be great, the warring continues, even on a vastly reduced scale. Two sides of the very same coin, I guess you could say. Yes ... you're right.
 
Indeed ... in the very deed! And no weapon that has ever been developed has not been used. Even the atom bomb, theorised to have the potential of igniting all of the earth's oxygen, upon detonation got used twice ... unnecessarily ... just for comparison, to make sure it worked. And whilst the rewards of such technology continue to be great, the warring continues, even on a vastly reduced scale. Two sides of the very same coin, I guess you could say. Yes ... you're right.

I am afraid I am.
 
Yeah, for all the talk about how emotional, violent, and bad ass the Vulcans were before Sarak, the Romulans sure don't live up to that Rep. A lot of the time they seem just as emotionless as their cousins. A wasted opportunity, imo.
 
Yeah, for all the talk about how emotional, violent, and bad ass the Vulcans were before Sarak, the Romulans sure don't live up to that Rep. A lot of the time they seem just as emotionless as their cousins. A wasted opportunity, imo.

I remember when Picard and Data were walking in the streets of Romulus, how colorless and lifeless it looked. They must not get many tourists there.
 
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