Warner Bros. Circling David Ayer for DC Comics’ ‘Suicide Squad’
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So the scandal isn't working, eh?
Crooked Snyder!
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Thankfully, I think most people realise that SS is quite a different film to BvS. I guess this is the advantage of DC letting its directors go in their own, um, direction. Marvel movies all have the same tone, so if one flopped it might be a sign that the franchise has gone off. With DC (I hope) the approach will be "If you didn't like the last one, the next one is totally different."
Don't think this has been posted yet. Fun video with the individual characters with animation using that underground comics style we've seen in some of the posters. Also, good if you're a really big fan of the "man in the back" line from Ballroom Blitz. 
EDIT: Use JD's link below, much better...
The second clip is lower res and splits off Slipknot and Katana. Does this say something about their fate...
EDIT: Use JD's link below, much better...
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Yeah, that is a little weird that just those two are split off like that.
This is the first dialogue we've actually gotten from a lot of the characters.
I noticed that they actually haven't been promoting this to little kids. I guess somebody must have had the good sense to realize that a movie about a bunch of violent pyschopaths might not be kid friendly. With as dark and violent BvS was, I was amazed how much stuff I saw for young kids.
This is the first dialogue we've actually gotten from a lot of the characters.
I noticed that they actually haven't been promoting this to little kids. I guess somebody must have had the good sense to realize that a movie about a bunch of violent pyschopaths might not be kid friendly. With as dark and violent BvS was, I was amazed how much stuff I saw for young kids.
^ Yeah, I was definitely surprised to hear Katana.
They made the jester suit for Harley, and even had Margot Robbie where it, but it ended up getting cut.
It sounds like there is or was a scene with Harley trying on different outfits, at least some of which reference previous costumes, and one of them was the jester suit.
It sounds like there is or was a scene with Harley trying on different outfits, at least some of which reference previous costumes, and one of them was the jester suit.
"The jester suit has an amazing, powerful quality to it," she said. "We built that. We actually put it on Margot, and she looked amazing."
I'd love to see that. The decisions they made make sense though.
I really hope they never show that. The version of "Harley" they're using doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the real Harley Quinn's costume. That kind of thing crosses the line into actively trying to piss off fans of the original character. Right now, I think its just Ayers arrogance and a general dislike of comics that's lead to his decisions on the movie (along with DC wanting everything to match the New 52 comics, of course). I hope he's not actively trying to give fans of the original characters the middle finger, because that's a whole different level of terrible.
So adding a known preferred character beat (even if it is just a costume) into this would incense you further? The fact that they even considered it pisses you off?? It's clear you don't like her costume design in current released material, but lordy, way to drill down to a character based on looks alone. You appear to get angry, just to get angry.
I'm not a fan of the hypersexualised motif in her outfits in the trailers. But then, frankly, outside of a one-shot giggle, seeing a someone in a two point-hat jesters outfit on the big screen is just as daft. It fits into the same mould as Wolverines yellow spandex outfit. Works in the context of a supersaturated comic book panel. Looks like a feral Pikachu in moving pictures.
I just Googled "David Ayer dislike comics" and "David Ayer hates comics" and "David Ayer not a fan comics" and what did I get matching your venomous comment? Nada. Nilch.
What I did find was Ayer doesn't like current comic book FILMS, their strict formula and humour outweighing plot.
Read ALL the interview before making comments like this. Or don't make inferences that he doesn't like your comic character based on an outfit update, as you yourself have pointed out, may have been mandated on him by DC to fit with her Rebirth image.
Hugo - neither here, nor there for this film as Ayer has been hit and miss of recent.
Given how much longer it takes to make movies than comic books, the influence is undoubtedly the other way around. Harley's Suicide Squad movie look was based on her New 52 look, loosely. Rebirth is tweaking it to look more like the movie version, since they want to draw in all the new fans they expect the movie to bring.
After all, a strong-selling comic has maybe tens of thousands of readers. A decently performing movie has an audience size at least the square of that. Nobody in the comics is going to have the clout to tell a movie director what he can or can't do. The director will do whatever he or she wants, and the comics will make whatever changes are needed to look more like the movies or TV shows. What? That character we killed off years ago is a featured player in your movie/show? Quick, start the resurrection! Our happily married hero is a single college student in your movie? Better call the divorce lawyers, or just rewrite reality. Hawkeye hasn't worn a mask or a fancy costume in the comics since Jeremy Renner showed up onscreen without one. Daredevil changed to a black outfit to reflect the first season of the TV show, even though that season ended with DD getting his red outfit. And so on.
Didn't Spider-Man also get organic webshooters around the time the first Raimi movie came out?
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Just because somebody changes something in an adaptation doesn't mean they hate it, it just means they are putting their own twist on things. If he really hates the comics that much, there is no way he would have even waste him time making a movie based on them. I love Batman and Spider-Man, but I can tell you right now if I ever got to do an adaptation of them, they wouldn't be exactly like the comics.
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First you're mad they changed the costume, and now you're mad the original costume might be in the movie. You literally just can't ever like any adaptation can you?
Just because somebody changes something in an adaptation doesn't mean they hate it, it just means they are putting their own twist on things. If he really hates the comics that much, there is no way he would have even waste him time making a movie based on them. I love Batman and Spider-Man, but I can tell you right now if I ever got to do an adaptation of them, they wouldn't be exactly like the comics.
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i don't "drill down" based on looks alone. I hate the New 52/SS Harley quinn because she's not the same character in a nything but name, she acts nothing like classic Harley (being more vicious and bloodthirsty in the New 52 comics, with a huge amount of Deadpool added in). That's why I hate the New 52 Harley. A stupid costume is a stupid costume. If the character is written well, its just something to roll your eyes at. The fact that neither the New 52 or Suicide Squad versions of Harley have any relation to the character Paul Dini created outside of a name and loose backstory is what makes me angry.
Also, if Ayers doesn't like Marvel films (what I consider the best superhero films ever), then it makes sense that he is using none of the original DC characters in his movie, just a bunch of brand new characters he's created and then slapped some DC names on. Marvel uses the comics as a base, takes good stuff from them and adds/changes things to fit movies. The DCEU (actually, you can include the Nolan Batman movies, too) barely takes names/powers from comics, and are not shy in showing how ashamed they are of their source material. You can like it if you want, but I hate it. I don't want in name only characters. They did those kind of superhero movies/TV shows for decades. Its time to make superhero stuff that uses the comics and the things that have made the characters endure to make good movies. At least, that's the MCU's philosophy, and its part of why they are kicking the DCEU's butt at the box office.
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What the hell? He doesn't like the MCU movie, so that means he doesn't like comics?
And when did you get the see the movie? Because that's only way you could state so matter of factly exactly how Harley is presented throughout the entire movie. I could see not liking what we've seen in the trailers, but that's not what you said.
And when did you get the see the movie? Because that's only way you could state so matter of factly exactly how Harley is presented throughout the entire movie. I could see not liking what we've seen in the trailers, but that's not what you said.
Oh, I didn't reallize it was that short lived. I just remember seeing it mentioned in other discussions about times the comics were changed to be more like recent movies.
We have a new trailer focused on Amanda Waller and Rick Flag.
We have a new trailer focused on Amanda Waller and Rick Flag.
Spider-Man had organic webbing introduced in 2004 (during Avengers Dissassembled), and the web shooters were returned in 2007 (One More Day). So about a 3 year period. There were also Spider-Totem powers that JMS introduced, but I forget the details about that.