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[Christopher]

Interregnum: 1951-1956 ( Super hero comics go into a slump.)

This wasn't really an interregnum for comics in general, though, since this period was marked by the rise of EC's horror and crime comics, which led to the backlash of Frederic Wertham's book Seduction of the Innocent, the Congressional hearings, and the institution of the Comics Code Authority, which was probably crucial to shaping the Silver Age by putting an end to the crime and horror comics and shifting the focus more toward light, kid-friendly adventure fare. I think romance comics, Westerns, and the like were also fairly popular at the time. Lee, Kirby, et al. got their start writing monster, horror, humor, and romance comics, and those influences all contributed to the style and flavor of the Marvel Universe. (The first two issues of Fantastic Four were really more monster/horror stories than superhero stories, with the shift coming in issue 3.)

 

[Nerys Myk]

This wasn't really an interregnum for comics in general, though, since this period was marked by the rise of EC's horror and crime comics, which led to the backlash of Frederic Wertham's book Seduction of the Innocent, the Congressional hearings, and the institution of the Comics Code Authority, which was probably crucial to shaping the Silver Age by putting an end to the crime and horror comics and shifting the focus more toward light, kid-friendly adventure fare. I think romance comics, Westerns, and the like were also fairly popular at the time. Lee, Kirby, et al. got their start writing monster, horror, humor, and romance comics, and those influences all contributed to the style and flavor of the Marvel Universe. (The first two issues of Fantastic Four were really more monster/horror stories than superhero stories, with the shift coming in issue 3.)

True, but the industry was going through a major shake up. Many publishers went out of business. Even big names like Fawcett and Quality. The comic code had an impact on content. There was a scramble to find the next big thing. None of those things generated sales like superheroes did in the Golden Age. Superheroes had troubles too. Atlas (protoMarvel) tried reaunching Cap, the Torch and Namor again with little success. At DC Superman,Batman and Wonder Woman's books were the only ones with staying power. (Green Arrow and Aquaman were along for the ride.) They looked to TV and films to find trends: SF, Westerns, Romance, Monsters. Then they went back to a "uniquely" comic book concept:Super-heroes. And lightning struck twice.

 

[eyeresist]

Thank you everyone for your explanations!
I guess I am a bronze age guy.

 

[JeffinOakland]

Aquaman retains his powers out of water. The first issue of new 52 Aquaman has a great opening scene where he tosses a car.

Aquaman could work really well, and Johns had a great take on him. He is a character torn between two worlds, the land and the sea, and as ruler of the sea world who also understands how human politics works wants the two peoples to live in peace. He wants to protect the sea from human exploitation but, unlike Sub-Mariner, doesn't want to wage war to do it. He also has to deal with all the politics of being the ruler of Atlantis.

There could be great parallels with modern politics as well as a solid environmentalism metaphor in his story.

The only thing I can't see is how to make the Atlanteans talk realistically under water, unless Atlantis is set up like the underwater cities on Naboo.

Actually, the first three arcs of Johns new 52 Aquaman could work really well as movies with the third movie being a Justice League movie (although it has already been done in animation) and the second movie setting up The Others.

Read Aquaman 52 Vol 1 and very much enjoyed it. The artwork is bright and detailed. The inclusion of Mera works well. Aquaman works well out of water but he obviously has a love/hate relationship w the civilians (like many superheroes). I'm looking forward to seeing him in Atlantis.

 

[Skywalker]

It breaks down roughly like this.

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I'll make a separate post for the 2004-2016 era. I have a lot of thoughts and this age can be a real shit show.

I absolutely loved this detailed breakdown. I can't wait to see your post for 2004-2016.

 

[Morpheus 02]

Can someone briefly give dates for these DC "ages"? I'd like to know where I stand.

My naming is a bit different from everyone else...and i include Marvel, though my knowledge is pretty fuzzy

Like everyone, the Golden ge is pretty clear cut. The Silver Age had a revival of some heroes, but some were radically changed, like Green Lantern & Flash, or added, like Martian Manhunter

But i extend the Silver Age until the Crisis on Infinite Earths. What Christopher calls the start of the Bronze age, i would say is more refinement, like the 24 carat version...where in the 70's, they did some more upgrading, like Clark Kent being a part of a TV station rather than a newspaper.

for DC, the Bronze Age began with the Crisis on Infinite Earths, and really has been continuing, where it has been marked by t first trying to end the multiverse, then re-forming it multiple times

I believe a new Platinum Age needs to be declared. Some heroes need to remain basically the same...but an official era change can "give permission" to radically alter some heroes, or introduce more . If major heroes like Flash & Green Lantern can be totally different people back then, this would be the opportunity to do so now. (And that change, if it weren't for racial & gender politics at the time could have changed race and/or gender).

What's changed since the Silver Age is that heroes are saturated in many media. So a radical change needs massive mrketing behind it. They have to make stuff that has logos other than the S and Bat and WW, and needs to be displayed equally. Right now, DC heroes' marketing is like the Disney princesses -- where they have 2 blondes and a brunette, and a minority character is luck to be on the same shelf/box as those 3.

So any hope for new minority characters rests on an easily reproduceable logo (i..e. any kids can draw it), and those shirt/shoes/etc. sit right next to the Superman one.

Depending on how the DC movies pan out (and/or how the DC Film Universe connect with DC TV) that might be the opportunity to change

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And for context...i was born in 1972...my first comic was Superman vs. Muhammad Ali...i watched the old Superman TV show at 5am as kid, and many of the 70's shows in syndication. I collected comics from about 5th grade to mid-high school...about 3 or 4 years after the Crisis. Now i "follow comics" through movies & TV shows (and Wikipedia)

 

[Christopher]

But i extend the Silver Age until the Crisis on Infinite Earths. What Christopher calls the start of the Bronze age, i would say is more refinement, like the 24 carat version...where in the 70's, they did some more upgrading, like Clark Kent being a part of a TV station rather than a newspaper.

Hey, I didn't invent the terminology. This is how comics fans in general define the terms. It's even in Wikipedia. Yes, the Bronze Age DC continuity of the '70s is part of the same "Earth-1" reality as Silver Age DC, but the "Age" labels aren't about continuities (since there have been multiple different DC continuities within the "Dark/Modern Age" already, and since Marvel's nominally had a single, ongoing continuity since the Golden Age) but about major changes in the industry. The start of a new age is generally seen as a point when comics recovered from a downturn in popularity or creativity and had a new surge of innovation that changed what came afterward. The Golden Age began when superhero comics were first invented. The Silver Age began when superhero comics made their comeback and Marvel introduced a new, more serialized way of telling comics stories. The Bronze Age began when new creators came into their own at both DC and Marvel and brought new depth and maturity to their storytelling, revitalizing series that had been in decline. And the Modern Age began with works that deconstructed the tropes of the past and brought new maturity and/or cynicism to comics.

Sure, you can decide for yourself that you want to label the "Ages" differently, but then nobody else will know what you're talking about. Labels only have value insofar as people generally agree on what they refer to, and most everyone in comics agrees that the Bronze Age began in the '70s and ended with Crisis.

I believe a new Platinum Age needs to be declared. Some heroes need to remain basically the same...but an official era change can "give permission" to radically alter some heroes, or introduce more . If major heroes like Flash & Green Lantern can be totally different people back then, this would be the opportunity to do so now.

That's the thing... You can't really "declare" something like that. "Ages" are not things that people agree to institute at the start; they're periods that historians define after the fact as a way of summarizing major trends and changes. It's hard to see a change like that while it's happening. Often things that seem like a big deal at the time fizzle out to nothing (like the speculator boom of the '90s), while trends that really do change the world go unnoticed at the time. For all we know, a new "Age of Comics" started years ago, but it's up to future comics historians to come to a consensus on what defines that "Age" and when and how it began. (A case could be made that the current "Age" is defined by the dominance of superhero movies and TV shows and their influence on their source comics, though it's debatable whether the age began in 1992 with Batman: The Animated Series, 2000 with Singer's X-Men, or 2008 with Iron Man. It takes time for history to arrive at a consensus on something like that.)

 

[ichab]

Trying to make logical sense of the many times that comics has rebooted itself over the decades is almost impossible. Christopher's explanation is as good as any.

 

[Christopher]

^Like I said, talking about the "Ages of Comics" isn't primarily about continuity or reboots, but about landmarks in the creative approach and popular impact of superhero comics. It's about the changes in comics as an art form and an industry, rather than in-story changes in their universes, although the latter can be a cause or an effect of the former. The only times that the start of a new age corresponded to a continuity reboot are the DC Silver Age (when the older comics were retconned as a separate reality) and the DC Modern Age (starting with Crisis on Infinite Earths). There was no continuity reboot at the start of the Bronze Age, and there have been multiple continuity reboots during the Modern Age (Zero Hour, Infinite Crisis, Flashpoint, and various smaller-scale revamps like Hypertime and the various adjustments to Superman's origin story, the Legion of Super Heroes, etc).

 

[Mudd]

There was no continuity reboot at the start of the Silver Age. The new versions of superheroes like Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkman and so forth were already established, some of them for years, by the time "Flash Of Two Worlds" was published in late 1961. The only major Silver Age character introduced nearly simultaneously with the publication of that story - which established the Earth 1/Earth 2 continuity - was the revived Atom.

Even at that time, the existence of earlier Earth-2 versions of those superheroes whose publication history had never lapsed - Superman and Batman, for example - would not be established until later cross-overs in the pages of Justice League of America.

Parenthetically, "Earth 2" is not distinguished from "Earth 1" as a separate reality - all the DC alternate dimensions are a part of an overarcing reality they eventually called the Multiverse.

 

[M.A.C.O.]

The Modern Era Part 2: 2004-2016.

The circle completes here. Marvel and DC's turn down the dark road starts in the same year, with similar things happening, and similar agendas.

Avengers Dissassembled

Spoiler

Brian Michael Bendis' story involves a retcon where the Scarlet Witch has not come to grips with losing her children (who were revealed to be manifestations of Memphito back in 1990 in West Coast Avengers), and in a mad rage uses her powers to kill Scott Lang and Hawkeye, force the Avenges to attack one another, and blow up Avengers Mansion. In BMB's follow up story, House of M, Scarlet Witch uses her powers to wipe of the bulk of the mutant population.

In the follow up series by BMB, titled New Avengers, the Avengers are back but their team is fragile and barely holding it together. BMB adds a lot of snide and snark in his ensemble writing so the Avengers don't act like friends or comrades in arms. The next event would be Civil War, which would split the recently reformed team apart, again.

and Identity Crisis

Spoiler

Brad Meltzer adds a retcon to the JLA history in a story that is a murder/mystery. Meltzer turns a two time JLA villain and a long running Teen Titan's villain (Doctor Light) into a serial rapist who sexually assaulted the wife of a 3rd tier hero (Elongated Man). The JLA take a vote on whether or not to mind wipe Doctor Light and make him less threatening. Ollie, Hal, and Dinah voted against. Zatanna, Carter, Barry, Ray Palmer voted for it. Batman discovers what the League is doing and rather than explain to him that they took a vote on their course of action, they decide to mind wipe him too. The League would also alter the minds of a dozen or so other supervillains. I would like to add the mind wipe retcon has nothing to do with the actual murder/mystery of the story. It was just added to set the tone of the DCU going forward.

In JLA Crisis of Conscience, the League finally comes clean, and tells Batman what he already knew. The League breaks up right before another universe ending crisis occurs in Infinite Crisis.

The agenda I think for this era of DC and Marvel was this: 'your heroes are not the perfect individuals you think they are. They have flaws, they are fallible, they are ineffective and you shouldn't like them. But keep reading about them because they are the good guys'.

Spoiler

Depending who you were, you either were presented as being ineffective or fallible during this post 2004 - 2006 era.

Captain America - Ineffective: 60+ years of clashing with HYDRA, and the Skull, his inability to stop AIM's terrorist activities, and the troubles holding New Avengers together.

Iron Man - Fallible: Tony championed the Supherhero Registration act, metahuman indefinite detention (with Reed Richards), and when Tony was made director of SHIELD his leadership lead the registered Avengers into conflict with the unregistered heroes. Tony's bad judgement ultimately led to Norman Osborn (the murderous, super villain Green Goblin) to assume control of SHIELD and all it's resources.

Green Arrow - Fallible: The mind wipes of several super villains and the JLA's dirty laundry fell to him and others, because Ollie said Clark and Bruce couldn't be bothered with such details. Eventually the truth came out in both the hero and villain community (an Ollie having a public identity at the time) had to take it from both sides for his choices.

Batman - Fallible: Batman's paranoia and bad judgement led to his surveillance and research of the JLA, JSA, TT and other metahumans falling into the wrong hands, again (see JLA Tower of Babel or the animated movie JL Doom), and as a result Ted Kord died, heroes were attacked and innocent civilians were put in danger.

Superman is a special case though. I believe the writers were aiming to make him ineffective during this era, but they ended up making him look apathetic to everything going on around him. In Identity Crisis, Ollie alludes to Superman knowing about the Leagues illicit activities. In Superman #636 this is confirmed and more. Superman admits to Batman and WW (who didn't know about what the League had done) that he knew about the sexual assault, Doctor Light, the mind wipes of various villains and the mind wipe of Batman. Superman's excuse for never confronting anyone about it amounted to him stating he didn't think it was his place to say anything. Also, by the time he found out (which was shortly after the acts), what had happened had already happened and there was nothing he could do about it. This kind of behavior we would see a lot from Superman during this era.

This is what happens when a writer couldn't adequately explain why Superman failed to act before this retcon was introduced. The retcon was set in JLA stories circa 1978, in the Bronze Age.

So yeah. Hate your heroes. Ugh.

Now that I've set the stage, you're ready to see how Marvel and DC both moved forward from this point.

Spoiler

I would say that Marvel's thing for this era would be events. Events and making as many tie-ins and crossover comics as they can for events. However, the problem is that many events follow a similar trend.

Avengers Dissassembled: Scarlet Witch attacks the Avengers and the Avengers

House of M: Hero vs Hero in an altered reality

Annihilation: Nova, Starlord, Gamora, Drax, Silver Surfer, Ronan and Super Skrull vs Annihulus.

Civil War: Hero vs Hero. Capt America dies, while Tony and Reed look like the biggest A-holes. But Marvel said Tony and Reed were right all along.

World War Hulk: Hulk vs X-Men, Fantastic Four, Avengers and anyone else he comes across.

Annihilation Conquest: Starlord, Gamora, Drax, Groot, Nova, Rocket Raccoon, and Quasar vs the Phalanx and Ultron. The success of both Annihilation stories led to the 2008 revival of the GOTG.

Messiah Complex: The first mutant born since House of M, and Bishop sets out to kill her.

Secret Invasion: Hero vs Hero vs Skrull

Messiah War: Cyclops trusts Hope to Cable and the X-Force to protect her from Bishop.

Seige: Norman Osborn attacks Asgard

Fear Itself: An Asgardian God manipulates the heroes of Earth, instilling fear and doubt and that leads to more hero vs hero.

Schism: Wolverine vs Cyclops. Fractures the X-Men. Logan makes his own school, and Scott makes his own school.

Shadowland: Daredevil with the Hand Clan fights Spider-Man and the Defenders

Avengers vs X-Men: Nuff said. Cyclops kills Prof X, is thrown in jail and the X-Men all look like bullies.

Infinity: The Avengers vs Thanos.

Original Sin: Nick Fury murders The Watcher Uatu, and sets the Avengers on a wild goose chase for his killer. This leads to more hero vs hero, until the misunderstandings are resolved and the mystery is solved. Also, Thor is left unworthy, for some reason.

AXIS: Another topsy turvy world, where the some heroes are made bad and some villains are made good, and they fight.

Hickman's Avengers vs the Illuminati members of the New Avengers and to an extent Secret Wars (2015): The Illumanti is destroying parallel Earths during the "incursion" era, and Captain America's led Avengers vow to stop them from continuing their actions. Think of the incursions like COIE multiverse, but instead of the Anti-Monitor destroying Earths, it's the New Avengers.

Civil War II: Another Civil War, and yet another hero vs hero event

Divided in Marvel NOW 2.0: The new status quo for Marvel after Civil War II ends. Notice the absence of the FF, X-Men, Daredevil, Peter Parker, and Dr Doom holding Iron Man's helmet. You can imagine where this is going.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...ff-with-enigmatic-divided-we-stand-group-shot


Hero vs Hero is the status quo at Marvel during this era, and as you can see, it is still going on. How can you like your heroes if they are always at each others throats? While it's different for every character, these big events can bleed over into the solo titles of a character's book, and the repercussions can be felt there. Ms Marvel (Carol) was a victim of this back in her 2005 run. Every other 6 or 7 issues another event was happening and Carol's book had to tie into it. This led to the author curtailing his own vision, in order to keep up with editorial demands.

Characters like Spider-Man, DD, the FF normally can avoid the big events, and have their own smaller events. They miss out on the action, but sometimes that's or the best. However things like One More Day and Brand New Day were crafted to reset Spider-Man's status quo and remove consequences other events latched on to him (Civil War and Peter revealing his identity).


While Marvel does not have reboots the way DC does, they do have line wide resets to make the titles more accessible to new readers. These would be Marvel NOW (2012-2015), the short lived All New All-Different (2015-2016) and the new Marvel Now (2016- ). Both Marvel and DC are chasing the new readership rabbit, and give the length of these eras and the kinds of stories they put out during these times, you can see they aren't very successful.

During the first Marvel NOW era, Thor became unworthy (for still unexplained reasons) and replaced by Jane Foster, the FF were cancelled after 50+ years running), Carol Danvers has received 3 relaunches to "make her happen" (possibly to make her Marvel's WW), the X-Men were given 2 mediocre books authored by BMB (the man responsible for culling their herd since 2004), the Avengers were turned into out right villains during the incursion arc etc.

Personally, I've had enough of Marvel's direction.It's just not the same and it seems to me at least that Marvel is doing things now to get readers attention, and not tell compelling stories with their characters. I mean, are there any good villains and villainess for the Marvel heroes to fight anymore?

I would talk about how Marvel is also trying to appeal to the pop culture crowd by making their comics and TV properties as similar to the MCU as possible (which so far has been for the worse), but I won't. I still have to write about DC.


My advice for this era of Marvel, is ignore most of the events and focus on the individual or team of characters' titles.

Ed Brubaker's 2005-2012: Captain America

Mark Waid's 2011-2015: Daredevil

Christopher Yost's 2008-2010: X-Force + the Messiah Trilogy he coauthored on the X-Men poper title.
Rick Remender's 2010-2012: X-Force

Dan Slott's 2013-2016: Superior and Amazing Spider-Man

Jonathan Hickman's 2009-2012: Fantastic Four and Future Foundation

Dan Abnett's 2008-2010: Guardians of the Galaxy + both Annihilation stories and Inhumans War of Kings

G. Willow Wilson's 2014-2016: Ms Marvel

Matt Fraction's 2012-2015: Hawkeye

Jason Aaron's 2012-2014: Thor: God of Thunder

Al Ewing's 2015-2016: Ultimates

Spoiler

The 2005-2011 era
After Infinite Crisis in 2005, the agenda at DC seemed to be combine the old with the new. One Year Later is what this era during 2006 was called. Once again, depend on who you were this era was good to you. Batman, WW, Booster Gold, the JSA, JLA (until 2008), Birds of Prey, Green Lantern, Flash, JLI, and the Legion of Supeheroes all had great stories during this time. However, other titles like Superman, Teen Titans, Aquaman, Hawkman/Hawkgirl, Green Arrow, Red Arrow, and Batgirl had some tough times. It's not that the writers didn't have direction. It's that the direction they took was either bad, decompressed, or mediocre in it's delivery.

With regards to events, you notice that Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) really became the point man for this time. All of his events were good, and touched across the DCU. Rebirth, Sinestro Corps War, Blackest Night, Brightest Day, War of the GLs. Batman coming up second with his stories involving the introduction of Damian, Batman RIP, Battle for the Cape and Cowl, Batman and Robin Reborn, and Batman Inc. Supes meanwhile had New Krypton and War of the Superman... .

You had good multi-part stories like 52, which was the brain child of several authors. And then you had terrible multi-part stories that were mandated by the editors like Cry for Justice (the beginning of the JLA's 3 year hole in the crapper till New 52), and Countdown.

Hot and cold events like Final Crisis and Flashpoint brought their own frustrations, but FC did bring Barry Allen back into prominence. So there is that.

Ultimately, I can say that only a handful of titles during this era were worth the paper they were printed on. Dan Didio has said he knew most of the books they were publishing were in bad shape and TPTB at WB told him to fix things. And as a result, we got the New 52.

The 2011-2016 era
The New 52

Like I said above, Batman and GL were doing really good during the 2005-2011. So when the New 52 came, they got to keep their continuity and all the current story lines the authors were working on. Everyone else though was given a hard reboot. Aquaman and Hawkman were given softer reboots because Geoff Johns was working on both during Brightest Day. Which gave both characters a shot in the arm and set them on good tracks going forward.

Now that the New 52 is officially over, I can say with certainty that this era was a mixed bag experiment. There were some good stories and some new ideas (Justice League Dark being one of them), but a lot of it turned out to be window dressing. The problems that plagued the Pre-New 52 era still plagued the New 52 era. Writers and editors with bad direction for the characters. New 52 I believe was able compensated the disparity by being a jumping on point for a lot of new readers. The books were accessible, so the cracks weren't as noticeable as they were before.

Looking at the list of comics, I say that most good New 52 titles that hadn't been cancelled, peaked in 2013. Around their 20th- 25th issue.

Grant Morrison's Batman Inc and Action Comics Superman

JH William III's Batwoman

Francis Manapul's Flash

Geoff Johns' GL run with Peter Tomasi on GL Corps and Tony Bedard on GL New Guardians.

Geoff Johns Aquaman

James Robinson and Tom Taylor's Earth 2.


Titles that remained good after their 25th issue would be:

Conner and Palmiotti's Harley Quinn titles.

Brian Azzerello's Wonder Woman.

Geoff Johns Justice League (until Darkseid war in JL #40).

Scott Snyder's Batman (until DCYou with Robot Bat).

Peter Tomasi's Batman and Robin.

Gail Simone's Batgirl, and later Steve Cameron's Batgirl of Burnside.


You had late blooming titles such as:
Jeff Lemire's Green Arrow. When you had a writer writing Ollie like Ollie and not like Clint Barton. Which began in 2013.

Tim Seely's Grayson. Which began in 2014

Becky Cloonan's Gotham Academy. Which began in 2014.

Genevieve Valentine's Catwoman. Which began in 2014

Scott Snyder's Batman and Robin Eternal. Which began in 2015.

Everything else, though isn't worth talking about. Remember, DC started with 52 tiles, and most of which were given the axe in the first year or so. You'll notice that most of the good titles during this era are Batman books. Here is the list of Batman titles during the New 52 and their authors.

Spoiler

Batman: Scott Synder

Batman and Robin: Peter Tomasi

Batman Incorporated: Grant Morrison

Batman The Dark Knight: David Finch and Gregg Hurwtiz

Batman Eternal + Batman and Robin Eternal: Scott Snyder

Detective Comics Batman: Tony Daniel

Detective Comics Batman: John Layman

Detective Comics Batman: Francis Manapul and Brian Buccellato

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Catwoman: Judd Winnick

Catwoman: Ann Nocenti

Catwoman: Genevieve Valentine

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Batwoman: J.H. Williams III

Batwoman: Marc Andreyko

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Batgirl: Gail Simone

Batgirl: Cameron Stewart and Brenden Fletcher

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Nightwing: Kyle Higgins

Grayson: Tim Seely

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Red Hood and the Outlaws: Scott Lobdell

Red Hood and Arsenal: Scott Lobdell and James Tynion IV

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Batwing: Judd Winnick

Batwing: Jimmy Palmiotti

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Robin Son of Batman: Patrick Gleason

We Are Robin: Lee Bermejo

Gotham Academy: Becky Cloonan

Gotham by Midnight: Ray Fawkes

Penguin: Pain & Prejudice

When it comes to events, again the DC events are far less invasive than Marvel's but they can still stink something awful.

2013: Trinity War was hot and cold.

2013-14: Forever Evil was good, but the bulk of the DC heroes weren't in it.

2014: Future's End had a tie in for nearly every running comic on both Earth 1 and Earth 2 but ended up being awful. It competes with Countdown for worst event DC has done. Despite all it's tie ins, DC burned all bridges with it and never referenced it again.

2015: Convergence was a waste of time and poorly executed.

2016: Finally we come to Rebirth, with DC capitulating that the New 52 was too far away from what makes their characters likable and what makes the DC universe so great. Now they are going back and reintroducing things from the pre-New 52 era into the characters that exist now and promising to do better.

Ok so that took forever. Before DC announced Rebirth and before I read the first issues of the titles they released so far, I was done with DC and Marvel. Too much had changed and there weren't enough titles with characters I liked to get invested in. Now, I think I can stick it out a little longer and give DC a shot. Marvel though, with this new "Divided" universe they are pitching for Marvel NOW 2.0, I can't do it. Where are the X-Men, Fantastic Four, Daredevil and Peter Parker Spider-Man? That's who I care about. I've listed titles for both Marvel and DC that I enjoyed and that other people found good. If you weren't in the know before reading my posts, you certainly are up to speed now.

 

[SalvorHardin]

New Justice League photos from Comic Con

 

[SalvorHardin]

High resolution photo

 

[M.A.C.O.]

Justice League TRAILER

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/756934912532373505

 

[Aragorn]

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[JD]

The Flash suit is very different from how it's usually done, but I like it.
Wow, I did not expect a JL trailer.
OK, that JL trailer was great. It looks like fun, which is not something I would have expected after BvS.
I like the effect they're using for Flash, it very different from the TV show, but still recognizable as Flash powers.
I love Batman's line about only being real when it's useful. That strikes me as a very Batman thing to say.
EDIT: CBR has posted their coverage of the DC film panel. It's still updating every few minutes.

 

[JoeZhang]

Tonally it feels completely different (yes yes short clip and all that) from Superman vs Batman.

 

[eyeresist]

After reading the all praise for it, I found the Batman/Flash scene underwhelming. Still, looks good. I hope we'll see more Cyborg in later trailers.

OTOH, the WW trailer starts slow but gets great.

 

[M.A.C.O.]

These women are our TV and Movie Iris Wests.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...ies-iris-west-is-dope-actress-kiersey-clemons

 

[Christopher]

^Nice. What's that picture from? Did they appear together in something?