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Wang to B&B: "Thanks for nothing!"
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Which is why God invented extras and recurring characters like Sito Jaxa.
Wasn't Radar actually bumped to Lieutenant once, but then for some reason got demoted back to corporal?I never heard Gary Burghoff complain that Radar O'Reilly was always a corporal, did you?
I thought Hawkeye pinned his captain's bars on Radar, making him a "Corporal Captain" so he could join Hawkeye (and BJ?) in an officer's bar when Hawkeye met BJ after missing seeing off Trapper John.
So help me, if that's all correct, I'm so sad that I remember that much detail about a frakkin' tv show I haven't watched in 10 years.
There's depths of sadness out there you would never recognize ma'am.
Hells bells we even have a board member named CorporalCaptain.
Just watched all of Threshold.
Wang wasn't in it.
None of them were.
Braga loved none of the actors from Voyager enough to offer them a part on his new show.
But we were talking about Berman?
Hells bells we even have a board member named CorporalCaptain.
Just watched all of Threshold.
Wang wasn't in it.
None of them were.
Braga loved none of the actors from Voyager enough to offer them a part on his new show.
But we were talking about Berman?
Oh enough with the B's and their bastardly ways!
To the fanfic!
To the fanfic!
You say it like it was a real TV show.
He did love SOME of them enough to give them some ENT episodes to direct though.
Actually, Garret Wang was.
However, I still see them both as very different.
Beltran acted up because he wanted to do his job.
He wanted a bigger part to play.
He wanted to earn his pay. He also asked to be let go if they weren't going to do so. B&B wouldn't let him out of his contract. So IMO he acted up for good reason. You aren't going to give me a bigger part, you don't want to write for me, you won't let me go to seek other employment and I don't wanna get paid as an actor just to show up and just stand here.
Wang didn't want to work.
Didn't want to put any effort into his job, yet now complains because he wasn't given a handout.
If Wang went as far a to call Berman a racist over it, why did he never once ask for out of his contract.
It's also ironic how his complaints started once he was out of a job but kept his mouth shut and ate shit while accepting that check, isn't it?
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Oh enough with the B's and their bastardly ways!
To the fanfic!
Oh my! [/sulu]
Oh enough with the B's and their bastardly ways!
To the fanfic!
Yes!
B&B did run Voyager into the ground.
But we keep it alive!
I think it was more of UPN's doing than their's.
Sure they could have fought more, but at what cost?
Their jobs, which may or may not have been a good thing.
How did Roxann Dawson get to direct?
From what she said on her profile on the Voyager DVDs, it wasn't really a slam dunk thing. When he hired her to direct a second time, Berman said, "I'm giving you another chance to fail," meaning he high expectations for her to achieve, and she better live up to them, or she won't direct again.
If I was Garrett I might have taken Dawson out for a drink and talked to her about what she did that worked before I started complaining that I didn't get the director's chair.
Hey, for all we know maybe he did.
From what she said on her profile on the Voyager DVDs, it wasn't really a slam dunk thing. When he hired her to direct a second time, Berman said, "I'm giving you another chance to fail," meaning he high expectations for her to achieve, and she better live up to them, or she won't direct again.
If I was Garrett I might have taken Dawson out for a drink and talked to her about what she did that worked before I started complaining that I didn't get the director's chair.
Hey, for all we know maybe he did.
Dawson is ten years older than Wang and had a lot more experience than he had before Voyager. I was shocked to realize that Dawson is just three years younger than Mulgrew, and she's six years older than Robbie McNeill. Guess that's what being a dancer does for you--too bad I'm too old and fat to start!
I was told that it's easier to change the preconceptions of everyone in the world than lose a little weight.
"Nothing will come of nothing."
King Lear Act one, Scene one, Line 94.
"Nothing will come of nothing."
King Lear Act one, Scene one, Line 94.
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Guy Gardener wrote:
Braga loved none of the actors from Voyager enough to offer them a part on his new show.
He did love SOME of them enough to give them some ENT episodes to direct though.
Wasn't Ethan Phillips one of the Ferengi in the Ferengi episode of ENT?
And Roxanne Dawson played the station voice in Dead Stop.
Well, he was a Ferengi in TNG first, back during "Menage a Troi" which gives shim extra credibility.
Precredibility if you will.
Meanwhile, Roxanne directed Deadstop.
She hired herself.
Hell, she might have even taken the part as a laugh and not gotten paid?
Precredibility if you will.
Meanwhile, Roxanne directed Deadstop.
She hired herself.
Hell, she might have even taken the part as a laugh and not gotten paid?
Fuckin' A! I hate Neelix like poison, but I agree with every word you said. Neelix was a shit character, played with heart by a fine actor.
So nice to read a compliment for the actor of a role so often bashed. For me, Phillips' acting and enthusiasm made me like Neelix despite the overall-lousy writing of him. When Neelix had great roles, he was acted superbly.
I just think of all the great characters wasted. Could you imagine deeper characters, with Chakotay and Neelix discussing the destructions of their respective planets and the choices each made? Or Tuvok actually being shown helping B'Elanna find some balance? Or Chakotay and Seven discussing destroying their ships to save Voyager and their subsequent second chances? Scenes like those would've been nice.
I just think of all the great characters wasted. Could you imagine deeper characters, with Chakotay and Neelix discussing the destructions of their respective planets and the choices each made? Or Tuvok actually being shown helping B'Elanna find some balance? Or Chakotay and Seven discussing destroying their ships to save Voyager and their subsequent second chances? Scenes like those would've been nice.
To me this was just a bad repetitive cycle. Wang felt disrespected with little character growth, so he responded poorly and maybe did not commit himself 100%. This goofing off made it seem like he did not care, so the writers never rewarded him. This was the fault of both sides.
Neelix has his moments, but Philips portrayed him really really well I thought. When he served as a care-giver, or when something tragic happened like in Jetrel, Riddles, Fair Trade, or Mortal Coil, Neelix was a great character. Unfortunately more often than not, he was written kind of as the class clown/jealous little brother and that got old.
it took me a while.
But I eventually figured out how superb Ethan was when I understood that Neelix was supposed to be fucking annoying and Ethan serviced that to a tea.
But I eventually figured out how superb Ethan was when I understood that Neelix was supposed to be fucking annoying and Ethan serviced that to a tea.