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Vulcans, sex and Pon Farr

Dorothy also advised Sturgeon a lot on "Amok Time", so there.

The way I see it is that pon farr is the only time that Vulcan males have to mate. They're perfectly capable, and fertile, any time they bloody well please, but pon farr is the only time they have no choice.

And, I suspect that adapting Surak's teachings probably is a big reason for the development of the cycle, since I think it's safe to assume that pre-Surakian Vulcans mated with whoever they liked, whenever they liked, in whatever combination they liked (IDIC, baby...). And since controlling one's libido is just as much a part of mastering one's emotions and learning to not kill the checkout girl for getting your change wrong, getting your mating habits under control is probably at least a full chapter in that "Teachings of Surak" book that T'Pol gave to Archer. And apparently, seven years is about as far as the typical Vulcan can go before developing the Vulcan equivalent of blue balls, so that's where we landed.

As for when it kicks in, from what I've gathered (mainly from the aforementioned Fontana novel "Vulcan's Glory"), the typical Vulcan male get his first pon farr in his early twenties. Spock, not being the typical Vulcan male, didn't get his first pon farr until his mid thirties ("I'd hoped I would be spared this, but the ancient drives are too strong.").

Further, I think that continuing the pon farr mating drive requires that the male be linked to a mate. If the link is broken, like, say, the female declares the kalifee and picks the male's best friend as her champion and causes all kinds of emotional trauma, then the mating cycle is also broken and his calendar is now free past that seven year point (of course, he now has to figure out his own way to handle those pent up emotions, but that's the price you pay for not following through on that arranged marriage your folks worked out when you were in the second grade). Again, Spock, not being the typical Vulcan male, probably did quite nicely without the pon farr hanging over his head, since by Vulcan standards he was a raving emotionalist anyway, but Tuvok clearly had problems, what with being a full Vulcan and married.

Vorik, on the other hand, was simply an idiot, and everyone was either just humoring him or were just as ignorant regarding pon farr, and were simply biding their time until the urge passed and they could all get on with their lives (at least that's how I'm proposing it be written up in the Concordance :vulcan: ).
 
My rule of thumb for Vulcans is what D.C.Fontana says is how it is.


Even though Theodore Sturgeon wrote "Amok Time" . . . ? :)

Yes, but Dorothy is still with us and is the expert on things Vulcan.


True enough. I just thought somebody ought to mention Sturgeon during a thread on pon farr.

(I did my very first convention panel with Sturgeon back in the early eighties. He was very gracious to a newbie.)
 
Even though Theodore Sturgeon wrote "Amok Time" . . . ? :)

Yes, but Dorothy is still with us and is the expert on things Vulcan.


True enough. I just thought somebody ought to mention Sturgeon during a thread on pon farr.

(I did my very first convention panel with Sturgeon back in the early eighties. He was very gracious to a newbie.)

I agree that Sturgeon played a VERY large part in the creation of the tapestry of Vulcans but I just don't have the time to wait for him to offer his opinion or answer questions. :rommie:
 
Seven years. Sheez. I go seven DAYS without a session with Mrs. SicOne, I get cranky.

I am wondering how hard it would be to get a hotel room in ShiKahr during pon farr. Imagine it would have to be booked several years in advance.

Probably the best-selling holodeck program of all time would be "Vulcans Gone Wild". It would make Rio de Janiero look tame by comparison.
 
Probably the best-selling holodeck program of all time would be "Vulcans Gone Wild". It would make Rio de Janiero look tame by comparison.

Several times on DS9, a particular pornographic holo-novel was mentioned called Vulcan Love Slave, along with a sequel, Vulcan Love Slave, Part II: The Revenge. (Part II is also mentioned fondly by Jake and Nog in the Millennium trilogy.)

So the canon would seem to agree with you there. Given Rule 34, I wouldn't be surprised if the idea of a horny Vulcan losing control were considered a major recurring theme in Federation erotica.
 
I am wondering how hard it would be to get a hotel room in ShiKahr during pon farr. Imagine it would have to be booked several years in advance.

Like I said, it's unlikely that all Vulcans go into pon farr at the same time. After all, nobody but Spock (and presumably T'Pring) seemed to be experiencing it during "Amok Time." And surely there'd be no way the Vulcans could keep it a secret from the rest of the galaxy if the entire Federationwide population of Vulcans all suddenly had to go home at the same time every seven years.
 
Probably the best-selling holodeck program of all time would be "Vulcans Gone Wild". It would make Rio de Janiero look tame by comparison.

Several times on DS9, a particular pornographic holo-novel was mentioned called Vulcan Love Slave, along with a sequel, Vulcan Love Slave, Part II: The Revenge. (Part II is also mentioned fondly by Jake and Nog in the Millennium trilogy.)

And in the video game Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force, if you visit your character's quarters, you can see that he or she is reading Vulcan Love Slave, Part III: Pon Farr a Trois.

So the canon would seem to agree with you there. Given Rule 34, I wouldn't be surprised if the idea of a horny Vulcan losing control were considered a major recurring theme in Federation erotica.

It's probably like a sexy librarian thing.
 
Probably the best-selling holodeck program of all time would be "Vulcans Gone Wild". It would make Rio de Janiero look tame by comparison.

Several times on DS9, a particular pornographic holo-novel was mentioned called Vulcan Love Slave, along with a sequel, Vulcan Love Slave, Part II: The Revenge. (Part II is also mentioned fondly by Jake and Nog in the Millennium trilogy.)

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It also pops up in Devil in the Sky.
 
I am wondering how hard it would be to get a hotel room in ShiKahr during pon farr. Imagine it would have to be booked several years in advance.

Like I said, it's unlikely that all Vulcans go into pon farr at the same time. After all, nobody but Spock (and presumably T'Pring) seemed to be experiencing it during "Amok Time." And surely there'd be no way the Vulcans could keep it a secret from the rest of the galaxy if the entire Federationwide population of Vulcans all suddenly had to go home at the same time every seven years.

T'Pring didn't seem to be experiencing anything out of the ordinary. And going by Roddenberry's version of how the process works, the female has to remain completely in control of her faculties, since the men are often reduced to mindless savages at this time.
 
I am wondering how hard it would be to get a hotel room in ShiKahr during pon farr. Imagine it would have to be booked several years in advance.

Like I said, it's unlikely that all Vulcans go into pon farr at the same time. After all, nobody but Spock (and presumably T'Pring) seemed to be experiencing it during "Amok Time." And surely there'd be no way the Vulcans could keep it a secret from the rest of the galaxy if the entire Federationwide population of Vulcans all suddenly had to go home at the same time every seven years.

T'Pring didn't seem to be experiencing anything out of the ordinary. And going by Roddenberry's version of how the process works, the female has to remain completely in control of her faculties, since the men are often reduced to mindless savages at this time.

The problem with this argument is that ENT's "Bounty," while an awful and sexist and exploitative episode, also established definitively that female Vulcans experience pon farr as well.

This agrees with the New Frontier series, in which Dr. Selar's pon farr cycle played an important role in early novels. (New Frontier also depicted pon farr in a way that was far less exploitative and juvenile than canon Trek has tended to portray it in the VOY and ENT production eras, and even managed to depict it as genuinely romantic at times).
 
Unfortunately, "Bounty" is a product from the same misinformed twerps that gave us "Blood Fever", so it's no wonder that it's just as flawed.
 
This agrees with the New Frontier series, in which Dr. Selar's pon farr cycle played an important role in early novels. (New Frontier also depicted pon farr in a way that was far less exploitative and juvenile than canon Trek has tended to portray it in the VOY and ENT production eras, and even managed to depict it as genuinely romantic at times).

Peter David is, obviously, well known for his excesses and rather loose interpretation of the word "plausibility", but for all that, rather paradoxically, I find his portrayal of Vulcan and Vulcans to be absolutely the best out of anyone's.

The Vulcan bartender in one of the Excalibur books (I want to say the second one?) was so amazingly spot on.
 
Unfortunately, "Bounty" is a product from the same misinformed twerps that gave us "Blood Fever", so it's no wonder that it's just as flawed.

I really don't see why it's any more plausible for only one sex to be driven by a mindless mating urge but not another.
 
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