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Voyager warp systems/power systems

malchya

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I just ran across a set of Voyager blueprints that indicate two separate intermix chambers, one for power generation and one for the warp propulsion systems. Is this correct?
 
Sure, why not? The left nacelle could be dedicated to power generation, and the right nacelle could be dedicated to propulsion.

Where'd you find these blueprints?
 
^WTF? the warp cores are not in the nacelles.

A second warp core was shown on the LCARS MSD in the series, though never mentioned in the show itself from what I recall.
 
^WTF? the warp cores are not in the nacelles.

Well, they should be. Why else have the nacelles? Why place them so far outboard? I wouldn't want a matter-antimatter reactor buried in the hull! I'd rather have it outboard, and have two of them. Y'know, the way Matt Jeffries intended.
 
That is canon as far as I know. The intrepid class came with an auxilary/spare warpcore. It was stored (unusable) in a different "tube". Once the original core was ejected, it could be replaced by ejecting and inserting the spare core into the now empty "engine tube". (I lack the proper words there.) Both power and propulsion came from only 1 core.

Pavonis: A am/m reactor could be even unsafer if it would be placed closer to a plasma environment like the nacelles. I think deep inside the hull would still be the safest option.

Nacelles are basically stacked coils that generate a warpfield/bubble, there power comes from the reactor, energy transfer goes thru a couple of plasma conduits. I'm writing this out of my head, but I think this is the general accepted theory.
 
Pavonis: A am/m reactor could be even unsafer if it would be placed closer to a plasma environment like the nacelles. I think deep inside the hull would still be the safest option.

Who said there was plasma in the nacelles? And why would matter-antimatter reactions be any less safe because of the presence of plasma?

I'm familiar with how modern Trek depicts the operation of the warp drive systems. I just prefer the original conception of the nacelles as the primary power producers for the ship, rather than the primary power consumers they are depicted as now.
 
I'm familiar with how modern Trek depicts the operation of the warp drive systems. I just prefer the original conception of the nacelles as the primary power producers for the ship, rather than the primary power consumers they are depicted as now.

OK! :)
 
Pavonis: A am/m reactor could be even unsafer if it would be placed closer to a plasma environment like the nacelles. I think deep inside the hull would still be the safest option.

Who said there was plasma in the nacelles?
The TNG episode "Cause and Effect," Star Trek: Generations, and the ENT episode "Civilization," all referred to venting plasma from the nacelles at some point in their stories. There's probably more.
 
The plasma is used to energize the warp coils inside the nacelles. The coils, in turn, create the subspace fields that forms the ship's warp envelope.
 
And the warp envelope is what propels the ship at warp speeds when the captain points and speaks the word, "Engage!"
 
^WTF? the warp cores are not in the nacelles.

Well, they should be. Why else have the nacelles? Why place them so far outboard? I wouldn't want a matter-antimatter reactor buried in the hull! I'd rather have it outboard, and have two of them. Y'know, the way Matt Jeffries intended.

Well that makes sense to have them in the nacelles. But aside from the evidence pointing to the A/AMR's being in the Nacelles on the TOS 1701, that is the only ship type or time period that they probably were on.

Though if not for sanctioned technical books like Mr Scott's Guide (incidentally, once sanctioned, it becomes canon by definition of what canon is) we may had even speculated that they were in the nacelles in TMP's E, and engineering contained plasma relays, and shunts, and other reactors...

Every other one we've seen has it in the main hull somewhere. That's what it is without question.

But having them ejectable doesn't make it a horrible location. After all, a m/am explosion in a nacelle would probably mean doom no less then in the hull proper.

I would speculate that earlier ships that had them in the hull, but they were less powerful and produced less, say radiation, and was more managable and less understood. Then they got bigger and more powerful, and automation and they were put outboard. Then tech caught up with making them safely managable in the hull again.
 
That is canon as far as I know. The intrepid class came with an auxilary/spare warpcore. It was stored (unusable) in a different "tube". Once the original core was ejected, it could be replaced by ejecting and inserting the spare core into the now empty "engine tube". (I lack the proper words there.) Both power and propulsion came from only 1 core.

Shame they forgot about it in "Day of Honor". Maybe the auxiliary core got smashed to smithereens during the fling to the Delta quadrant (along with the Captain's Yacht and their ability to hit Warp 9.975 regularly), or maybe that micro-fracture that Janeway repaired in Caretaker proved more terminal than they'd imagined and the swap-out was already done off screen...
 
That is canon as far as I know. The intrepid class came with an auxilary/spare warpcore. It was stored (unusable) in a different "tube". Once the original core was ejected, it could be replaced by ejecting and inserting the spare core into the now empty "engine tube". (I lack the proper words there.) Both power and propulsion came from only 1 core.

Shame they forgot about it in "Day of Honor". Maybe the auxiliary core got smashed to smithereens during the fling to the Delta quadrant (along with the Captain's Yacht and their ability to hit Warp 9.975 regularly), or maybe that micro-fracture that Janeway repaired in Caretaker proved more terminal than they'd imagined and the swap-out was already done off screen...
The idea of the Voyager having a spare warp core only appeared on the Master Systems Display. It was never mentioned in any actual episode and may not have ever been in the series writer's bible. The second core on the MSD may be a source of power for systems other than the warp drive perhaps (one core dedicated for the warp drive, another for everything else).
 
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