Voyager nailed..this

[RobertScorpio]

I have my issues with Voyager. There are several episodes that I personally think are as good as anything STAR TREK has ever done. But I did have problems with how it progressed, and ended. But one thing they nailed? The opening sequence.

DS9 is my favorite modern TREK, but its opening has always seemed boring to me. As did TNG's. But the soaring music of Voyager, and some of the stunning visuals, sets this opening sequence, IMO, far above its modern trek siblings.

Rob
Scorpio

 

[ALF]

Rob, I'll tell you what.
I'll agree it was better than DS9 and (at least the music) of Enterprise.
Usually when I watch VOY episodes, I don't skip the intro ahead.

TOS was a 60's opera and TNG is over-the-top. I dig the TNG intro, but it's suuuuper intense.

No dissin'. Voyager's got some great stuff.... But. Wasn't it Voyager that was supposed to deliver on the super-weird shit in deep space with entities and balls of light and intangible aliens and all we got were bumpy-headed-aliens-of-the-week?

Anyway, the intro is super fun. Great eye candy, IMHO

 

[jgdst]

Totally agree Apart from the music being completely fitting, it's always amazed me that the opening credits are entirely CGI. Ahead of their time, definitely.

Also the fact that neither the music nor the imagery changed for seven seasons is surely a testament to the fact they got it right first time.

 

[HRHTheKING]

DS9's season 1-3 opening was the best.

VOY's opening sequence was very good though.

 

[Johnhead99]

DS9's season 1-3 opening was the best.

VOY's opening sequence was very good though.

Nah. I like DS9 alot; so I hear your arguement, but nothing beats Voyager's intro. The music is powerful and gets me ready for Trek better than any other.

 

[RobertScorpio]

DS9's season 1-3 opening was the best.

VOY's opening sequence was very good though.

Nah. I like DS9 alot; so I hear your arguement, but nothing beats Voyager's intro. The music is powerful and gets me ready for Trek better than any other.

I guess its all tastes...because I find DS9 1-3 opening sleep inducing...

Rob

 

[RoJoHen]

I love Voyager's opening credits! It's absolutely beautiful, and frankly it gives you an idea of what all Star Trek should be about.

 

[PhoenixIreland]

I always thought the opening sequences were stupid, a silly way of taking up time so they didn't have to produce another scene.

When you've seen them once thats it, they loose their interest, I looked at them the same way I looked at ads, a chance to go to the kitchen to make a cup of tea.

 

[RoJoHen]

^I love them. I did think it was very odd that Voyager's didn't change at all, especially the visuals. I mean, of all the Trek shows, it would have made the most sense to change their opening (as they traveled across the Delta Quadrant), but I think it's the only one that never did.

 

[FalTorPan]

Totally agree Apart from the music being completely fitting, it's always amazed me that the opening credits are entirely CGI.

Entirely CGI? I doubt that.

 

[jgdst]

Totally agree Apart from the music being completely fitting, it's always amazed me that the opening credits are entirely CGI.

Entirely CGI? I doubt that.

I'm sure I read that in the Star Trek Monthly magazine a while back. It was done as the acid test to see if CGI could be feasibly used for the show, and evidently, it was a success (although not used exclusively for the episodes until the latter half of season 3).

Also, this from Wikipedia:

Voyager was the first aired UPN program at 8:00 p.m. on January 16, 1995. Voyager was also the first Star Trek TV show to use Computer Generated Imagery (CGI) exclusively, and eliminate the use of models for exterior space shots. Other television shows such as seaQuest, Space: Above and Beyond, and Babylon 5 had exclusively-used CGI to avoid the huge expense of models, but the Star Trek television department continued using models, because they felt models provided better realism. Amblin Imaging won an Emmy for the opening title visuals, but the weekly episode exteriors were still captured using in-house-built miniatures of the Voyager, shuttlecraft, and other ships, the same method used for The Next Generation.

I realise that doesn't make it conclusive being Wikipedia and all, but it's enough for me

 

[Finnegan]

I have my issues with Voyager. There are several episodes that I personally think are as good as anything STAR TREK has ever done. But I did have problems with how it progressed, and ended. But one thing they nailed? The opening sequence.

DS9 is my favorite modern TREK, but its opening has always seemed boring to me. As did TNG's. But the soaring music of Voyager, and some of the stunning visuals, sets this opening sequence, IMO, far above its modern trek siblings.

Rob
Scorpio

Yes! The Voyager opening sequence is pretty breathtaking. I gotta say though that I concur about the DS9 opening--my gawd!--that things practically a sedative!

 

[Finnegan]

Totally agree Apart from the music being completely fitting, it's always amazed me that the opening credits are entirely CGI.

Entirely CGI? I doubt that.

I'm sure I read that in the Star Trek Monthly magazine a while back. It was done as the acid test to see if CGI could be feasibly used for the show, and evidently, it was a success (although not used exclusively for the episodes until the latter half of season 3).

Also, this from Wikipedia:

Voyager was the first aired UPN program at 8:00 p.m. on January 16, 1995. Voyager was also the first Star Trek TV show to use Computer Generated Imagery (CGI) exclusively, and eliminate the use of models for exterior space shots. Other television shows such as seaQuest, Space: Above and Beyond, and Babylon 5 had exclusively-used CGI to avoid the huge expense of models, but the Star Trek television department continued using models, because they felt models provided better realism. Amblin Imaging won an Emmy for the opening title visuals, but the weekly episode exteriors were still captured using in-house-built miniatures of the Voyager, shuttlecraft, and other ships, the same method used for The Next Generation.

I realise that doesn't make it conclusive being Wikipedia and all, but it's enough for me

The "all CGI" reference to Voyager is NOT correct. They did use miniatures and models for at least SOME of the spacecraft. I read an interview with someone who worked on the effects for Voyager (forget the name now),
and they talked about filming the opening sequence. He referred specifically to the shot where Voyager pushes ahead through some mist/fog, and the fog sort of gets whispy and blown away as the nose of Voyager plows through it. They got that effect by having air forced through some rubber tubing that was sneakily attached to the front of the filming model. When the air hits the mist, it pushes it out of the way and creates the illusion of voyager pushing past/distubing it. This is a fact.
Wikipedia is wrong yet again.

 

[jgdst]

Entirely CGI? I doubt that.

I'm sure I read that in the Star Trek Monthly magazine a while back. It was done as the acid test to see if CGI could be feasibly used for the show, and evidently, it was a success (although not used exclusively for the episodes until the latter half of season 3).

Also, this from Wikipedia:

Voyager was the first aired UPN program at 8:00 p.m. on January 16, 1995. Voyager was also the first Star Trek TV show to use Computer Generated Imagery (CGI) exclusively, and eliminate the use of models for exterior space shots. Other television shows such as seaQuest, Space: Above and Beyond, and Babylon 5 had exclusively-used CGI to avoid the huge expense of models, but the Star Trek television department continued using models, because they felt models provided better realism. Amblin Imaging won an Emmy for the opening title visuals, but the weekly episode exteriors were still captured using in-house-built miniatures of the Voyager, shuttlecraft, and other ships, the same method used for The Next Generation.

I realise that doesn't make it conclusive being Wikipedia and all, but it's enough for me

The "all CGI" reference to Voyager is NOT correct. They did use miniatures and models for at least SOME of the spacecraft. I read an interview with someone who worked on the effects for Voyager (forget the name now),
and they talked about filming the opening sequence. He referred specifically to the shot where Voyager pushes ahead through some mist/fog, and the fog sort of gets whispy and blown away as the nose of Voyager plows through it. They got that effect by having air forced through some rubber tubing that was sneakily attached to the front of the filming model. When the air hits the mist, it pushes it out of the way and creates the illusion of voyager pushing past/distubing it. This is a fact.
Wikipedia is wrong yet again.

Well there you go, Wikipedia abused my innocence again. And yet I keep going back

 

[RoJoHen]

I have my issues with Voyager. There are several episodes that I personally think are as good as anything STAR TREK has ever done. But I did have problems with how it progressed, and ended. But one thing they nailed? The opening sequence.

DS9 is my favorite modern TREK, but its opening has always seemed boring to me. As did TNG's. But the soaring music of Voyager, and some of the stunning visuals, sets this opening sequence, IMO, far above its modern trek siblings.

Rob
Scorpio

Yes! The Voyager opening sequence is pretty breathtaking. I gotta say though that I concur about the DS9 opening--my gawd!--that things practically a sedative!

Sadly, DS9 is a space station. I don't think the theme is bad at all, but it's hard to make exciting visuals when your "ship" doesn't move.

Granted, they could have shown visuals of others things, like B5 did, but oh well.

 

[B_L_T]

Voyager opening very beautiful, beautiful images and music. Beautiful shots of ship flying

 

[Astraea]

I have my issues with Voyager. There are several episodes that I personally think are as good as anything STAR TREK has ever done. But I did have problems with how it progressed, and ended. But one thing they nailed? The opening sequence.

DS9 is my favorite modern TREK, but its opening has always seemed boring to me. As did TNG's. But the soaring music of Voyager, and some of the stunning visuals, sets this opening sequence, IMO, far above its modern trek siblings.

Rob
Scorpio

Yes! The Voyager opening sequence is pretty breathtaking. I gotta say though that I concur about the DS9 opening--my gawd!--that things practically a sedative!

The music, or the visuals? Because I can admit that the visuals during the DS9 opening sequence are boring, but I really like the music, and of the two versions of the DS9 theme, I prefer the slower version from S1-3. Personal preference, I guess. But I do have to say anything's better than Enterprise's theme.

 

[Akiraprise]

But I do have to say anything's better than Enterprise's theme.

Your lack of faith is disturbing.

 

[voyagerfan]

Voyager's theme is essentially a proper Star Trek theme, it conjurs up the feeling of flying gracefully full the galaxy and the last bit when the nacelles actually go into warp just sets it off. Pus the sound of the warp drive starting and the high violins as well make your hairs stand on end.

They struck gold with Voyager's theme!

 

[freak]

i definitely agree about Voyager's opening sequence..however, for me, it got old watching the same old thing for seven years. ;D No offense! But I really liked the sequence though.