Voyager memories

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

4.5 months. But still, it would have been fun to be in the thick of it. Curling up on the couch to watch the latest episode. Being in agony for 3 months in between the Scorpion episodes (okay maybe not THAT one). Scrambling to make sure I didn't miss any tv interviews of the cast.

 

[JanewayRulz!]

Well, you can have that now with OitNB... except you have to wait 12 months between seasons.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

Yeah, that sucks! And The Big Bang Theory Bazinga.

 

[Catarina]

True, and I don't think I'm ready to hit my 30's yet either.

I turned 33 today. Savor your twenties. They fly faster than your childhood, IMO.

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

True, and I don't think I'm ready to hit my 30's yet either.

I turned 33 today. Savor your twenties. They fly faster than your childhood, IMO.

"Savor the fruit of life, my young friends. It has a sweet taste when it is fresh from the vine. But don't live too long. The taste turns bitter after a time."

Boy, am I good at quoting things!

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

How philosophical of you.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

True, and I don't think I'm ready to hit my 30's yet either.

I turned 33 today. Savor your twenties. They fly faster than your childhood, IMO.

Happy birthday Catarina!

 

[JanewayRulz!]

True, and I don't think I'm ready to hit my 30's yet either.

I turned 33 today. Savor your twenties. They fly faster than your childhood, IMO.

Oh Sweetie... I have shoes older than you!

Enjoy every stage of your life, ladies. It just keeps getting better.

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

How philosophical of you.

That's a quote from Kor, the Dahar Master...

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

True, and I don't think I'm ready to hit my 30's yet either.

I turned 33 today. Savor your twenties. They fly faster than your childhood, IMO.

Oh Sweetie... I have shoes older than you!

Enjoy every stage of your life, ladies. It just keeps getting better.

You misspelled "bitter"...

 

[Windcharger]

I was excited to see the premier of Voyager. For me it was Trek returning to a Starship vs the DS9 station, witch always seemed a bit limiting for that show.

 

[Lynx]

I wrote this in another thread but I have to repeat it again since my start of Voyager was a bit unplanned and I do have some fun memories from it.

For me it was the 8 January 1997. Some months earlier I had gone to a rock concert, by doing that I missed the evenings episode of DS9 which was "Move Along Home". I taped it on my VHS but unfortunately, there were some problems with the airing of the episode so when I was trying to watch the episode next day, there was nothing but a gray screen for most of it.

That 8 January, I went down to a shop which rented movies and such to see if they had that episode. They had very little DS9 and not "Move Along Home" but they had all season 1 of Voyager, a series I knew very little about at that time (I live in Europe). So I decided to borrow a copy of "Caretaker" instead.

And what a great pilot it was and still is! Excitement from the first minute to the last and the main characters are introduced in a very good way.

On the contrary to many other series I've watched, even TNG, DS9 and TOS, I took an immediate liking to all the main characters. The only one I did have some small doubts about was The Doctor but that changed in the coming episodes.In fact, the only other series I ever watched where I took an immediate liking to all the main character was NCIS.

I remember that I got goosebumps when Kim says "We're on the other side of the galaxy". Now the real adventure starts, I thought. In fact I almost get the same feeling when I watch it today as then.

After watching "Caretaker" I became a fan and could hardly wait to watch next episode.

My local station started to air Voyager in the spring of 1998 but at that point I was already watching season 2 on VHS tapes which I rented from the same store.

The only problem occurred when I had to wait six months to watch the second part of "Basics". That was six long months.

At that time I tried to avoid the Voyager websites because I didn't want to spoil the excitements of watching the episodes. However, that changed in 1998 due to certain events.

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

I was excited to see the premier of Voyager. For me it was Trek returning to a Starship vs the DS9 station, witch always seemed a bit limiting for that show.

Ds9 sets itself apart from the other trek series. I am not sure I would call it limiting though. They do quite a bit of exploring thanks to the wormhole.

 

[Iamnotspock]

I have British Friends that can't stop raving about doctor who. Personally I saw a couple episodes and was unconvinced. Maybe I should ask their top ten episodes and see if I like them.

The modern version is way better than the crap i saw as a kid (the doctor fighting a man made of liquorice) but it's still lacking. I have seen a few really good episodes but in general, i'm just not a fan of Doctor Who

I believe he's been played by ten different actors or about.

Twelve. It's a strange one, Doctor Who. It's arguably the most flexible format ever invented for a TV show, and one of the most diverse (if you're being kind), or inconsistent (if you're not being kind) shows out there. It's been around in one form or another for 51 years, and has evolved and varied wildly in tone and approach over that time; certain eras of the show are as disparate as the Adam West Batman series and the Christopher Nolan film trilogy, the difference being that Who has never been rebooted - it's all (loosely, allowing for the concepts of alternate timelines and changing the past) one long continuity. hux, the story you saw as a kid was one story from one era of a straight 26-year run, while the modern revival is now 10 years old and has changed dramatically.

It's also not a show you can really gauge or get a feel for from just a couple of episodes; to truly sample the programme and all it has to offer is a huge undertaking, which of course one has to be motivated to do in the first place so it's a Catch-22.

If you're a fan of Trek, though, you're likely to find something to like in at least one corner of the Who-niverse.

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

The modern version is way better than the crap i saw as a kid (the doctor fighting a man made of liquorice) but it's still lacking. I have seen a few really good episodes but in general, i'm just not a fan of Doctor Who

I believe he's been played by ten different actors or about.

Twelve. It's a strange one, Doctor Who. It's arguably the most flexible format ever invented for a TV show, and one of the most diverse (if you're being kind), or inconsistent (if you're not being kind) shows out there. It's been around in one form or another for 51 years, and has evolved and varied wildly in tone and approach over that time; certain eras of the show are as disparate as the Adam West Batman series and the Christopher Nolan film trilogy, the difference being that Who has never been rebooted - it's all (loosely, allowing for the concepts of alternate timelines and changing the past) one long continuity. hux, the story you saw as a kid was one story from one era of a straight 26-year run, while the modern revival is now 10 years old and has changed dramatically.

It's also not a show you can really gauge or get a feel for from just a couple of episodes; to truly sample the programme and all it has to offer is a huge undertaking, which of course one has to be motivated to do in the first place so it's a Catch-22.

If you're a fan of Trek, though, you're likely to find something to like in at least one corner of the Who-niverse.

But seeing as you sound like a specialist of the how, would you recommend watching (to a beginner that is) from the very first episode on, or would rather tell them to watch modern era DW and then when they are used to the concept go back in time and watch the early works?

 

[ThankYouGeneR]

I wrote this in another thread but I have to repeat it again since my start of Voyager was a bit unplanned and I do have some fun memories from it.

For me it was the 8 January 1997. Some months earlier I had gone to a rock concert, by doing that I missed the evenings episode of DS9 which was "Move Along Home". I taped it on my VHS but unfortunately, there were some problems with the airing of the episode so when I was trying to watch the episode next day, there was nothing but a gray screen for most of it.

That 8 January, I went down to a shop which rented movies and such to see if they had that episode. They had very little DS9 and not "Move Along Home" but they had all season 1 of Voyager, a series I knew very little about at that time (I live in Europe). So I decided to borrow a copy of "Caretaker" instead.

And what a great pilot it was and still is! Excitement from the first minute to the last and the main characters are introduced in a very good way.

On the contrary to many other series I've watched, even TNG, DS9 and TOS, I took an immediate liking to all the main characters. The only one I did have some small doubts about was The Doctor but that changed in the coming episodes.In fact, the only other series I ever watched where I took an immediate liking to all the main character was NCIS.

I remember that I got goosebumps when Kim says "We're on the other side of the galaxy". Now the real adventure starts, I thought. In fact I almost get the same feeling when I watch it today as then.

After watching "Caretaker" I became a fan and could hardly wait to watch next episode.

My local station started to air Voyager in the spring of 1998 but at that point I was already watching season 2 on VHS tapes which I rented from the same store.

The only problem occurred when I had to wait six months to watch the second part of "Basics". That was six long months.

At that time I tried to avoid the Voyager websites because I didn't want to spoil the excitements of watching the episodes. However, that changed in 1998 due to certain events.

Love your story about you & Voyager. Glad you retold it here or I would have missed it.

 

[Iamnotspock]

I believe he's been played by ten different actors or about.

Twelve. It's a strange one, Doctor Who. It's arguably the most flexible format ever invented for a TV show, and one of the most diverse (if you're being kind), or inconsistent (if you're not being kind) shows out there. It's been around in one form or another for 51 years, and has evolved and varied wildly in tone and approach over that time; certain eras of the show are as disparate as the Adam West Batman series and the Christopher Nolan film trilogy, the difference being that Who has never been rebooted - it's all (loosely, allowing for the concepts of alternate timelines and changing the past) one long continuity. hux, the story you saw as a kid was one story from one era of a straight 26-year run, while the modern revival is now 10 years old and has changed dramatically.

It's also not a show you can really gauge or get a feel for from just a couple of episodes; to truly sample the programme and all it has to offer is a huge undertaking, which of course one has to be motivated to do in the first place so it's a Catch-22.

If you're a fan of Trek, though, you're likely to find something to like in at least one corner of the Who-niverse.

But seeing as you sound like a specialist of the how, would you recommend watching (to a beginner that is) from the very first episode on, or would rather tell them to watch modern era DW and then when they are used to the concept go back in time and watch the early works?

I'll drag this back on topic in a minute, I promise...

But, it depends on the person, really. If you're OK with early-'60s black-and-white TV, I would definitely recommend starting with at least the first episode. The trouble with ploughing through from the very beginning is that a lot of the '60s episodes don't exist anymore. I introduced someone to the show recently by showing her a documentary produced for the 50th anniversary to give her an overview of the premise, then showed her a particular episode I thought she'd really like (she did), before she went back to the start of the modern revival and marathoned that, then investigated the earlier run. I'm personally not too fond of the opening episode of the revival, it's a bit too camp and slight on plot for my taste, but to each his own. Maybe read up on the show on Wiki, or try this article or this tribute/trailer.

As for VOY, I remember being on holiday in Florida in '97 and seeing the trailers for the Season 4 première, then flying home just before it aired - I think we were in the air when 'Scorpion', Part 2 was on. When I did finally see it, it became one of my favourites. Seven and the Doctor were probably my favourite characters.

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

I am glad I didn't see Nemesis first or it may have convinced me not to watch the series anymore. Plus what the hell is wrong with whoever was in charge of casting that week? The show had plenty of good child actors but the little girl in that episode was just awful. I've seen better acting in school plays.

 

[Lynx]

I am glad I didn't see Nemesis first or it may have convinced me not to watch the series anymore. Plus what the hell is wrong with whoever was in charge of casting that week? The show had plenty of good child actors but the little girl in that episode was just awful. I've seen better acting in school plays.

I have to disagree here.

Personally I think that the episode "Nemesis" was a very good episode. In fact, it is one of the few season 4-7 episodes of Voyager I really like (the others are the "Equinox" episodes and that episode with the fast rotating planet "Blink Of An Eye".

I like "Nemesis" because it's a good Chakotay episode and with some interesting twists and turns. I also like the scenario with the conflict on the planet and the dilemma about who was right and who was wrong.

As for the girl, I don't find her worse than Worf's son or Naomi.

 

[Shaka Zulu]

Why not?

Most of the BBC shows you mentioned were relegated to spin off channels for spin off viewers. Sure there was more British output but i've never been a fan of homegrown Sci-fi anyway (i just don't think we do it well) Fades was interesting but what happened to that after one series?

I'm talking about US sci-fi on the BBC at prime time

BBC just wouldn't do that now (and i would also say that their obsession with Dr Who has not been good for the genre as a whole)

Bullshit, you Brits do sci-fi well (and with Doctor Who/Torchwood on the air, you're the only ones doing the space-based sci-fi we North Americans used to do!) In fact, I'd say the kind of sci-fi we make now is the kind of sci-fi that you traditionally made (due to not having large budgets except for Doctor Who and Blake's 7)-The X-Files, Fringe, Orphan Black, Heroes (which was basically The Tomorrow People before the official recent American remake-Heroes is people with powers just like The Tomorrow People), The 100, Life On Mars, etc.

All of these shows are what we make instead of FX-heavy shows like Star Trek, Doctor Who, Stargate SG-1, Space-Above And Beyond, & Firefly (the 2004-2009 reboot of Battlestar Galactica was the only exception in recent years) and all of them are just like the British shows of the 70's and '80's that were made and shown on the BBC and ITV-not space based, and not effects heavy.

All of that is due to the influence of reality TV and the big U.S. networks not wanting to spend more than they have to on programming (cf. CBS Corporation's CEO Leslie Moonves and his reluctance to producing a new Star Trek show because the big money's and quick profits are in reality TV, crime shows, sports and the occasional awards show-mostly now just the Tony Awards and the Grammy Awards.)

So no, British sci-fi is amazing (where would we be without Doctor Who, Star Cops, Red Dwarf, Sapphire & Steel, etc. and the contributions those shows made to the make-up of sci-fi TV?) and you should be taking a bow! In fact, our TV execs on this side of the pond should be getting some balls and producing shows like Doctor Who and Torchwood, and also looking at getting back Star Trek on the air.