No there wasnt
Voyager Gamma Quadrant
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Or was it the episode with the Hirogen in the last season? It was just an image of one as I recall...
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Yeah, there was a holo-Jem'Hadar in Flesh and Blood. A Breen too, as I recall. And there was an early Voyager ep which used stock footage from DS9 of Jem'Hadar fighters. I don't think they were supposed to be J'H though, or if they were the writers changed their mind because later in the series Chak and Torres had never heard of the Dominion. Edit: On the other hand, maybe Voyager had files on the Jem'Hadar (due to the attack on the Odyssey) but not the Dominion (as they weren't properly known yet) at the time of launch? That could work.
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They probably received some info about them when they got their letters. Chakotay even talks about the powerful new ally the Cardassians have.
That's the time I was referring to, Chakotay talks about the new ally as though they are completely unfamiliar to him. The Jem'Hadar footage was from an earlier season.
This is actually a really interesting point (kind of deviates from the point of this thread, but oh well). Why didn't USS.Voyager make the trek over to the Gamma end of the Bajoran wormhole? Probably would have only been a 30 year voyage instead of 70..but I could be way off on that.
It probably depends on where in the Delta Quadrant they ended up. Its possible they ended up on the edge of the DQ so that it was the same distance either way
Yeah, just looked at some Star Trek quadrant maps and it seems almost equal distance to either Earth or the wormhole.
They were almost as far away from the Gamma end of the Wormhole as they were from Earth...and they had no way of knowing if the wormhole would still be there by the time they got there.
The real question is why they didn't fly around the sun in the Ocampa system to go back in time a bit and ask the Past Caretaker to send them home.
Same reason they didn't slingshot forward in time in "Future's End" when they were at Earth - because like Discovery's Spore Drive in Voyager, TOS' slingshot time travel doesn't exist in Voyager's version of the Trek world.
Otherwise they'd be complete muppets not to have done it.
That, and the problem with having a Gilligan plot is that you can never succeed without ending the plot...and thanks to DS9, ending the plot in 2 seasons or so wasn't an option.
But once DS9 was off the air they could have brought them home and continued their story in the Alpha Quadant.
I don't think it would have been as interesting. Then it would really be just TNG all over again. And would they even all stay on the ship? If they got home after 3 years what happens to the former Maquis?
DS9 ended two years before Voyager. They could have come home, and played into a huge conflict over the Maquis and former Borg on board. Heck, we could have had species 8472 or even rogue Dominion already infiltrated Starfleet. There was story imo.
I guess the way I'm thinking is in the Alpha Quadrant there's nothing really important for Voyager to do. It's a tiny scout ship. TNG was interesting because they were the flag ship. Any thing big and interesting will be going on on the Enterprise
True but if Starfleet has been infiltrated and you are running, a small, manoverable ship is easier to hide. Even if you don't go that route, scout ships are designed to go where larger ships cannot. There are areas still to be explored, even of it's through new worm holes or spacial rifts.
By then it was too late to mean anything. The best time to do a "Go back to the Federation to get help against the 8472 aliens" plot was back in season 3 or 4, not 7.
I think going back early in season 6 would have worked. It gives two seasons(4 and 5) to flesh out 7 and we get some good Delta Quadrant stories that would not work in the Alpha Quadrant like Year of Hell and Equinox to name just two. I feel the writing was more tired in season 6 and 7. They needed a change imo. I still enjoyed the show but in hindsight it could have used a push in slightly different direction.
I would have liked them to get home with maybe six episodes to go then had a couple 'homecoming/readjusting' episodes before they're called to use their DQ intel to fight off the Borg or something. Or could have done the full circle thing like TNG and DS9 and had some third Caretaker involved.
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