Thank you.
I think one of the great qualities of all Trek in general is that it's greatly entertaining but can be used as an educational tool on certain topics as well.
Voyager & Christianity/Religion
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I think one of the great qualities of all Trek in general is that it's greatly entertaining but can be used as an educational tool on certain topics as well.
i don't know. evolution is a fact of nature, the law, while religions are fantasy. they are sort of incompatible.
Hear hear. While I am not personally religious, we're all trying to make our way in this world. I certainly don't have all the answers, so I don't begrudge anyone who turns to religion for some explanation of their spiritual life... just so long as they don't try and take me with them.
When a "belief" contradicts known reality, it is wrong and irrational. That is not an opinion.
Evolution is fact. Tolerance for other people's religious or political views do not even enter into the equation. Facts are facts - regardless of whether anyone likes it or not.
I'm not going to touch on the issue of whether or not Christianity is reconcilable with the fact of evolution. That's for Christians to decide. Voyager's acknowledgment of the fact of evolution should not be construed as a judgment of truth - either of Christianity or Chakote's tree people. That's as true today as it is in the 24th century.
Evolution is fact. It's up to a believer of any particular religion to decide if belief in that religion is reconcilable with the fact of evolution. Denial of the fact of evolution is as irrational as denial of the fact of a spherical Earth orbiting around the sun. Tolerance has nothing to do with it. Facts are facts.
Faith trumps facts.
Apparently because the fossil records are incomplete, it can be argued that Evolution is an incomplete supposition which is utterly inabsolute and completely nonbinding as if it's only a matter of time until we find fossils of Angels.
I once, more than once in a bar, said that the whole bablyon 5 Vorlon Shadows Mythology was some odd little middle eastern pantheon. I almost even got a convert once.
Some people will tie their faith to anything.
O.
Officially in the last census I filled out, I was one of those idiots who slotted in "jedi" as his religion. Does that mean that anyone here who hammers jaja binks and the raw mulch which is the rest of the prequel trilogy is intolerant of my religion?
I wanted 9 years on Buffy for them to say that Jesus was a vampire.
No balls.
Man from Earth showed the tac that they might was taken in requiem for Methuselah.
How sad.
Apparently because the fossil records are incomplete, it can be argued that Evolution is an incomplete supposition which is utterly inabsolute and completely nonbinding as if it's only a matter of time until we find fossils of Angels.
I once, more than once in a bar, said that the whole bablyon 5 Vorlon Shadows Mythology was some odd little middle eastern pantheon. I almost even got a convert once.
Some people will tie their faith to anything.
O.
Officially in the last census I filled out, I was one of those idiots who slotted in "jedi" as his religion. Does that mean that anyone here who hammers jaja binks and the raw mulch which is the rest of the prequel trilogy is intolerant of my religion?
I wanted 9 years on Buffy for them to say that Jesus was a vampire.
No balls.
Man from Earth showed the tac that they might was taken in requiem for Methuselah.
How sad.
One of the most basic principles of science is the acknowledgment that there is always the possibility that what we accept as true, no matter how much evidence their is or how well proven it seems to be, could be mistaken. Dealing with 100% absolutes is not scientific.
Of course. Dealing with one hundred percent absolutes is religion.
That is correct. Technically, science never proves anything; it only disproves theories. But when a theory withstands thousands of attempts to disprove it, when every known fact only makes sense if it is true, one gains quite a bit of confidence in it. That is especially true when all competing "theories" are easily shot down.
Earth is more than 4 billion years old. The universe is more than 13 billion years old. Dinosaurs walked the planet more than 65 million years before the first Humans appeared. Denying these things at this point is akin to denying that 1 + 1 = 2.
So StarryEyed, religion is the same as being stripped naked and tortured by a Cardassian until you're repurposed into thinking a lie is the truth?
Have we mentioned the next emanation where religion turned out to be right and harry's certainty in science proved to be bollocks?
Have we mentioned the next emanation where religion turned out to be right and harry's certainty in science proved to be bollocks?
Mortal Coil.
The whole episode could have been avoided if Seven of Nine had told Neelix that Talaxian Souls don't cross over into the afterlife until 72 hours after death, which coincidentally is the amount of time after which cellular necrosis is irreversible for Borg nanoprobes.
I never equated all religion with Cardassian torture chambers although it can be like that. Google "Spanish Inquisition" and be prepared to cry.
"Emanations", besides being a crap episode, is fiction. But it wouldn't change anything even if it were real. Of course a religion may be correct. If may stand up to scientific scrutiny and earn credibility. It may make claims which are outside of scientific scrutiny and are therefor untestable. It may make claims which ARE testable in the realm of science and may be proven false - like the literal interpretation of the book of Genesis in the Bible.
Humans do not originate from an original pair. We do have animal ancestors. We have been around far longer than 10,000 years. There was no world-wide flood.
But there is going to be a world wide flood. That Vice Prez from olden times seyz so. Maybe the bible is told out of order and backwards to protect the innocent and culpable yet dim?
Devil's advocate?
I can think of no worse insult than being inferred to as one of Keanu Reeves worst movies!
SWEET NOVEMBER!
By the way? How am i expected to google something I can't expect?
Like the Spanish Inquisition?
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