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Voyage to the Planets vs. Defying Gravity...

Professor Zoom

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No contest. Voyage to the Planets wins.

I just watched it...and, sure, it maybe unfair to compare a two episode story to a 13 part one...but, nevertheless...I really loved Voyage to the Planets (or Space Odyssey in the UK).

I liked HOW the story was told, I loved that it showed how dangerous different places were, I liked that the characters were truly professional, and that the science was based WAY more in fact.

THIS is a show I could watch for 13 hours.
 
All excited about finding out about something apparently worth watching, I checked Netflix to add Voyage to the Planets to my queue and lo and behold - I'd already seen and rated it. A big two stars outta five. :rommie: And I'm not a tough Netflix reviewer (practically everything gets at least four stars).

And now I remember seeing a very pretty show about planetary visits that was ruined by having a dumbshit soap opera with silly characters and a poorly written plotline superimposed on it. Contrast that with, say, The Universe's episodes on Mars or "what would Earth be like without the Moon," which are absolutely absorbing without the need to add some silly story to what should be fascinating material for anyone with even a passing interest in the wonders of the cosmos. Rather than watch the antics of fictional characters, I would much rather listen to real-life astronomers talk about the topic, and convey the wonder and love they have for their profession. That's all the "human interest" we need.

The one clear advantage of Voyage to the Planets is that it's two hours long and the sparse story and paper-thin characters don't have (as much of) a chance to wear out their welcome. Pretty SFX doesn't constitute good fiction.

Voyage to the Planets and Defying Gravity have the same problem - they need to make the audience give a shit about the characters and their situation to keep tuning in each week. But Defying Gravity is worse because it didn't give us the pretty SFX to serve as some compensation.

And what's the point of ruining a perfectly good documentary topic by dumbing it down for the masses like that? It's not even necessary, since the History Channel does fine with a pure-documentary format - yes, people WILL watch a "boring" show about Neptune, dark matter or whatever without sugar-coating at all. With the new season of The Universe underway, I'm pretty much set for my wonders-of-the-cosmos documentary needs. But I still need a worthwhile space opera series!

The creators of Defying Gravity should have recognized that the rules for them are the same as the rules for any other type of show. You start out with an interesting story and characters worth watching.

And, although I'm willing to give em some leeway about the silly-science problem, neither show really addressed the fundamental problem of the premise, which is that manned expeditions to hostile planetary environments make no sense because any scientific information could be gathered more efficiently by probes, robots, etc. There is no reason to put human life in danger except for PR or political purposes (which was the real motive behind Apollo 11). Rewrite the premise to make the mission be all about Earth politics, and then I could believe it. Or come up with a profit-driven scenario. But pure science? Pshwah!
 
If humanity is to survive over the long term, eventually we need to stop keeping all our eggs in one basket and migrate beyond this single planet. That's the reason for sending manned expeditions to other worlds: as a forerunner to colonization, a means of perfecting the techniques of keeping humans alive in space and delivering them safely to the surface of other planets. Ultimately, the greater danger to humanity is if we don't leave Earth. Stuck here, we could be wiped out as a species by the next climatic catastrophe.

As Konstantin Tsiolkovsky said, "The Earth is the cradle of mankind, but one cannot remain in the cradle forever."
 
And now I remember seeing a very pretty show about planetary visits that was ruined by having a dumbshit soap opera with silly characters and a poorly written plotline superimposed on it.


We'll have to agree to disagree about this. While I think Defying Gravity is the dumbshit soap oprea (and I don't think you disagree with that), I think Voyage to the Planets isn't. I thought how they handled the dangers of space travel, and specifically one of the character's...shall we say...journey?...was nicely done for me. It wasn't melodramatic, it wasn't soap operaish.

Thin characters...I don't know...they felt real to me, but, there just wasn't time in two hours to really get to know them.
 
I just watched this series this week. Space Odyssey: Voyage to the Planets (2004).
With only 4 posts on this thread I didn't see any need to start up a new thread.
The special effects were really amazing. Great ship exteriors and CGI planet surfaces. I wasn't wild about the standard definition cameras use with much reduced resolution for some stuff. It looked like 1990s cheap BBC documentary video in those parts. I felt the acting was adequate. The pacing moved along and the narration kept it feeling like a documentary.

I liked how the Antares ship in Defying Gravity was pretty much the same thing as Pegasus in Space Odyssey: Voyage to the Planets. I liked how the interior of Pegasus looked similar to Antares in sections.

The one clear advantage of Voyage to the Planets is that it's two hours long and the sparse story and paper-thin characters don't have (as much of) a chance to wear out their welcome.
It was too short. I felt 2 hours was too short for something that takes place over 10 years. Even if they just showed 8 years as the last 2 after the comet were just travel to Earth. It should have been 4 or 6 hours. Although this is a BBC 2 hours which would have been a 3-hour TV series in USA so I guess I just wanted them to spread it out more.

Voyage to the Planets and Defying Gravity have the same problem - they need to make the audience give a shit about the characters and their situation to keep tuning in each week. But Defying Gravity is worse because it didn't give us the pretty SFX to serve as some compensation.
I agree. after seeing Voyage to the Planets I realized that Defying Gravity could have given us much better visual effects.


what's the point of ruining a perfectly good documentary topic by dumbing it down for the masses like that?
It is still dramtic. It is a mockumentary genre show just like Waiting for Guffman (1996).

Either we get a documentary or a scripted dramatic TV series. This is really a first time for me of experiencing a mockumentary-style scripted drama set on a spaceship (without rayguns & aliens). I don't think I need to see this style again. I'd rather have a more polished space drama for entertainment.

I loved that it showed how dangerous different places were,
I also felt the more science content really gave it more impact for the drama.
 
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