Spoilers Visual continuity - Does Discovery strictly need to show past designs... at all?
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I don't need in universe explanation for their stupid look, I want them to have hair!
Want and whether or not they fit with other Klingons are two different issues.
Seconded. I totally see where they were going with the makeup design but... well... they'd just look cooler with hair.
I think they look more alien without hair, so agree to disagree and all that.
No, I totally understand that. That's exactly what the producers were going for: ALIENS. Not "forehead aliens," not "cranky biker dudes with shit glued to their heads" but "This is an entire alien species, with diversity of character and beliefs and even of appearance."
It's just that they would look COOLER if they had hair. Picture L'Rell with a sort of Demi Lovato mohawk thing. Less alien, sure, but it would be pretty badass too.
Alright, middle ground. I think they would cool either way
Maybe never, which is fine by me. The fact remains they are still very klingon looking.
My main problem in relation to that is that it’s all of them. Not an eyebrow between them. They either aren’t the same species that was show across the vast majority of Trek (even if we go with the reboot every ten minutes argument) OR they have the Klingon Augment Denuding Virus, is the implication. They are just so samey. When the council showed up, I thought cool, so we have seen these new Klingons, some sect or ethnically different grouping, cool cool, wonder how they will look next to the council....oh...the council are the same damn thing, all almost totally visually indistinguishable, all buried beneath the masks. Bum.
There was more variation in the old Klingons, and these new ones would get Glenn and Neville (and I think they are more Neville than Glenn.) sent Home on their own show. Heck they probably tore the hair off ten minutes before judging...sorry I mean shooting...because they didn’t want to cover their gnarly detail on the Klingon blowholes (that’s how I imagaine the phrasing went too.) and it was a bugger to glue those wigs on.
It’s totally fixable (they grow some hair, or there’s a story explanation, and some hairy Klingons show up too) and it’s a failure on a par with the NuDaleks (though they had more colour variants.)
The first issue of the Discovery comic series, which was co-written by Kirsten Beyer, had Klingons with hair in it. Of course the comic isn't canon, but It seems like the writers at least seem aware of non-bald Klingons, so honestly I'm willing to take the comic written by one of the show's writers over the explanation of a prop designer. Also, from what I understand after skimming the article it doesn't specify that Klingons can't naturally grow hair, just that they don't have hair to heighten their senses, so I don't see the problem here.
The problem is that they don't look right!!! /s
The article explicitly states that Fuller wanted them bald. And, so far, every Klingon we've seen onscreen in Discovery is bald. So I'm going to go ahead and side with the article. As we've seen in the comics, sometimes the artists do what they want or what they think is wanted. We've seen the Connie-refit make it into the Abramsverse comics depicted as the Enterprise.
That is a beautiful hybrid piece. Really hope Diamond Select makes replicas.Discovery did well with the Phaser revealing continuity through it's design.
It fits perfectly between "The Cage""WNMHGB" and TOS. The triple emitters on both "The Cage" "WNMHGB" laser and Discovery phaser etc.
McFarlane toys is making a 1:1 replica.
So where are the HemQuch and Quch'ha during the war?
Those are non-canon so , no where.
In books, probably.
Yeah I think I remember seeing that announcement a while back. I think they were going to ask around $500 for it. A bit steep for my blood, I'm afraid...McFarlane toys is making a 1:1 replica.
That is bloody insane.
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