I preferred when TOS Vulcan's had their own unique hairstyles instead of all Vulcan's having the Spock haircut.
Spoilers Visual continuity - Does Discovery strictly need to show past designs... at all?
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Could have gotten Xon:
And Dr. Selar had an interesting style.
Perhaps Spock's Kohlinar look:
Selar was the only other Vulcan besides Spock to rock that kind of style. I wish we saw more of her.
They really look damned close to the DS9 Era Klingons, they are bald. But over all, look pretty damned close, if more detailed.
I have the feeling we could post this fact over and over, refer to the evidence over and over, post pictures of DISCO Klingons with hair to how how close to 24th Klingons they actually look time after time....and 5 minutes later read the response "but why do the Klingons look nothing like Klingons?"
Of course they are, and there's no shortage of evidence of this.
where Klingons ever pretty? YMMV, but they were ugly mofos from TMP on
They can, but they can't claim they look nothing like TNG era klingons when the facts prove otherwise.
well they CAN claim that, and they do. I mean, I could claim the earth is flat and 6.000 years old. I'd be wrong but I can claim it
I'm sorry, but they look very similar to 24th century Klingons to me
You guys should wait for someone to make the claim you wish to dispute before disputing it. This isn't the arguining of facts, merely the distaste at the Klingon's alopecian update. It's a fairly common and widespread opinion among Star Trekkians, and not something that can be proved or disproved.
and you can have your opinion if you want to. tastes differ. I'm certain there are some that LOVE the TNG Romulans. I find them ridiculous and ugly. It's okay.
But whenever somone claims (and we had that a lot last night) that they changed the look drastically? well, that's simply not true. a bit of refinement, a bit of skin color variation (never a bad thing) and hair removal (which was a big thing in the '00s on Earth so I don't see why the Klingons themselves wouldn't go through a phase like that) and that's about it.
I do get why people are uncomfortable. I think they're fine, but a little more variation wouldn't hurt. They kind of look a bit too much like generic movie monster people (remember the Vampires Remans in Nemesis?), but then most TNG/DS9 Klingons looked like a biker gang of Motley Crue fans.
I'd like to see more of other Houses, some with more hair and beards, maybe even in something like the classic TOS uniform with the chainmail look and gold sash in the background. That would be fun.
I'd like to see more of other Houses, some with more hair and beards, maybe even in something like the classic TOS uniform with the chainmail look and gold sash in the background. That would be fun.
Well, King Daniel Beyond included the Klingon makeup on his list of Discovery stuff that needs to be reconciled with other Trek canon, including TNG. So, the claim wasn't outright stated but heavily implied.
I think that’s the biggest problem...they are all not just bald, but hairless. No eyebrows, barely anywhere an eyebrow looks like it would grow even. And we have had bald Klingons before (chang...who was allegedly an inspiration for these guys.) and their heads were not the Mayan nightmare we see.
Now, it’s easy enough to back pedal a bit (maybe L’rell can grow some hair in captivity, now she has no access to Klingon Epilators...presumably no different to the Human ones, Klingons like pain...Klingon pixie cut anyone?) but it’s definitely jarring, even after drawing on some hair. (I did the same thing myself, but never did get the hang of image posting.) The full body nude shots of Klingons are interesting (I find xenobiology interesting in Trek, and something that never gets addressed outside of dodgy fanfiction and possibly the darker corners of Drozana Station in STO) but again present a dichotomy with what we have seen before when Klingons go sleeveless. Is there a ritual scarification? Body mod culture? Some longer lasting effect of the Augment Virus or attempts to cure it? It’s easy enough to write a fix in, thankfully, and play that out....especially as the fundamental problem makes us feel like Space Rascists....thanks to Neville Page all these Klingons really do look pretty much the same, especially at a distance. Maybe if we got to know more than two of them, because atm we know White Male Ex Klingon and White Female Klingon. We did have silly face paint Klingon and Gold plated Klingon, but they are all too samey. Say what you like about the old Klingons, but it was easy to pick out say Gowron from Martok from K’mpec. I don’t even like Klingons and could do that.
Bells.
B’Etor.
K’Elehyr.
The Romulan daughter whose name I forget on the prison planet.
The female second in command in STV.
The spy in STIII Lady something whose name I forget.
All post TMP.
In the interests of balance,
I suspect Klang or whatever his name was in STV and same dude as translator in VI probably ticked some boxes, Worf probably had a certain charm by Ds9, maybe Martok (and his Mrs whose name I forget.) and Chang (VI) Alexander was briefly like Tom Cruise with a bumpy head too.
So there have been some aesthetically pleasing Klingons.
Oh..and Bells daughter Miral.
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