I never thought CEOs think like fans. Quite the opposite, in fact.
And PR people only do what they're told by the people they're representing.
Spoilers Visual continuity - Does Discovery strictly need to show past designs... at all?
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I never thought CEOs think like fans. Quite the opposite, in fact.
And PR people only do what they're told by the people they're representing.
I was talking about you liking it, but ok, fair enough.
It doesn't bother me as much, but I know I'm weird
That goes back to Enterprise.
Nah, they have many masters, agendas and motivations.
But the events of Enterprise should have completely altered the Mirror universe. It should no longer be technologically on par with the Prime timeline, it should have blown by it.
Based upon what? The TE has not shown a great capacity for innovation. If you fail, you die.
But if it did Mirror Mirror wouldn't have happened.
MU stories hinge on using the same sets and cast. If you think about nothing in the MU should look as much like Prime as they do.
Quite clearly the CBS marketing team knows what the damn Prime Timeline is, given they went out of their way to name the recent movies the Kelvin Timeline and are selling merchandise for both timelines and call them just that.
Discovery is the Prime Timeline. It says it in the press material, it says it in the tie-in books and merchandise, it says it in the show's behind the scenes (including last week's), and that's that. They're approaching it like Doctor Who, where the show visually updates itself with each iteration, but in-universe the differences aren't addressed. Accept that's their approach and move on, that's the only advice anyone can give.
It's like the Star Wars fans that get riled up that Anakin's lightsabre, Luke's lightsabre and Rey's lightsabre are all meant to be the exact same lightsabre, but they have completely different blade lengths and thickness, and even their designs are different between all the trilogies. The thing is destroyed now so it doesn't even matter.
The split and change of the Mirror universe would've technically happened after the events of "The Tholian Web" in the Prime timeline. After Kirk and company visited the first time. Much like the split of the Kelvin universe couldn't have happened until after Spock had lived much of his life in the Prime timeline.
There may still be the Mirror universe that we saw in "Mirror, Mirror" out there, but it simply can't be the one we see in Discovery.
Except MU-Prime Universe meta-relationship always reverts to mean. If capture of future tech USS Defiant had a major technological impact on MU, then why do we see MU Shenzhou basically identical to Prime version. There is an ISS Discovery somewhere too, with MU Stamets and MU Spore drive (that ship is in Prime universe now btw, everyone is forgetting about that little piece). The whole MU-Prime thing always tends to revert to "same, but opposite" relationship, across hundreds of years of both universes existence, no matter what technological leaps should happen.
They also say "The Alternative Factor" and "Spock's Brain" are canon. Yet many people have no issue dismissing them. I have no issue, based on what's onscreen, dismissing CBS claims of this being the Prime timeline.
Doesn't make it factual. Just preferential.
I dismiss the Star Wars Pequels, Pitch Black, "Prince Caspian" film and the like.
I agree. But, I can't make the leap connecting the two together. Simply doesn't work in my head, and I've strung some doozies together in the past.
And I canI agree. But, I can't make the leap connecting the two together. Simply doesn't work in my head, and I've strung some doozies together in the past.
Star Trek works well inside my head.
And I can
I have no doubt of Discovery being "Star Trek", much like I have no issue with the Abrams films being "Star Trek". It just simply doesn't fit into the Prime timeline, and it's more than just the look.
To each their own. Works for me.
Those people's opinion of "canon" are irrelevant. ( As is mine). OTOH, the opinion of whom ever CBS currently has in charge of Star Trek does.
But that is just the mirror universe not making any sense. It never made any sense, and more they show about it, less sense it makes. I could have done without mirror episodes, but that doesn't mean that the episodes itself are bad.
At this point, I'd just prefer them to stay in the Mirror universe. The characters seem much more interesting, the plots more dramatic than what they were previously dishing out.
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Yup. The mirror universe isn’t a regular parallel reality like the kelvin verse or any of the others. It’s linked somehow to our reality and people, and tech, and organisational structures that couldn’t possibly form in parallel do anyway. I’d go so far as to suggest that all those parallel universes we’ve seen all have a parallel mirror universe of their own.
I don’t think we need an explanation for it, I’m happy to never see the universe again, it was interesting in TOS, but it’s a shallow well. But if there is an explanation, intelligent design would fit the facts, and that probably means Q lost a bet somewhere down the line.
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