Let me know when they start going after the police
Have you read literally nothing about what's been going on in Baltimore the past few days?
Let me know when they start going after the police
I lose respect and sympathy for your cause when all you do is burn random buildings and attack anyone that has different color skin than you.
I lose respect and sympathy for your cause when all you do is burn random buildings and attack anyone that has different color skin than you.
"What you're seeing on the news is questionably reported, sensationalistic, biased coverage of a hot-button issue that the media knows its audience has a knee-jerk response to. Most of it is being reported by people who don't live here and don't understand the situation. And all of it is happening because a police suspect who was fine when they put him into a police van had a broken spine and a smashed voicebox when he got out, and the police and the city have responded to the public's outrage by blaming the public for being upset."
I lose respect and sympathy for your cause when all you do is burn random buildings and attack anyone that has different color skin than you.
How convenient.
Try an experiment: ask yourself honestly under what conditions you'd behave this way.
"I'd never do that!" is a cop-out. So is "First, let's assume we're talking about some evil other-universe version of myself."
Just try, presumably knowing yourself a bit, to imagine under what circumstances, in response to what kind of provocation, you-as-you-believe-yourself-to-be would do these kinds of things.
Then allow for one tenth of a second that at least some of the participants in riots like this are people like you.
When I got home from work last night, I turned on the television only to see that the Orioles game had been postponed due to safety concerns. On Facebook, I saw a Google Map that showed fires happening literally two blocks away from the Baltimore office I used to work in, and three blocks away from the house I used to live at. I saw that the National Guard had been activated and that the State Police had requested additional officers from neighboring states. I slumped back in my recliner and I just started sobbing for a solid five minutes.
A good friend of mine who lives near Patterson Park put it best:
"What you're seeing on the news is questionably reported, sensationalistic, biased coverage of a hot-button issue that the media knows its audience has a knee-jerk response to. Most of it is being reported by people who don't live here and don't understand the situation. And all of it is happening because a police suspect who was fine when they put him into a police van had a broken spine and a smashed voicebox when he got out, and the police and the city have responded to the public's outrage by blaming the public for being upset."
I lived in Baltimore for a year. It's a wonderful city and I miss it dearly. Yes, it has problems, but every community in the country has problems. But there are serious issues within the Baltimore City Police Department -- you don't pay out nearly $6 million in settlements and court judgments for misconduct and improper use of force over four years without there being a systemic issue -- and while we might find these protests less than savory, the way the media are presenting them, basically as "half-human, half-animal-like mythical beasts rampaging through downtown Baltimore attacking hapless people with guns," is at best grossly irresponsible and at worst downright malicious behavior in service of a narrative, rather than actually taking the time to ask, "Why? Why is this happening?"
There is no question that the police in Baltimore did something wrong, and there should be repercussions, but these protesters defeat their own purpose by using violence. Take a page out of Gandhi's book.
Ta-Nehisi Coates said:Now, tonight, I turn on the news and I see politicians calling for young people in Baltimore to remain peaceful and "nonviolent." These well-intended pleas strike me as the right answer to the wrong question. To understand the question, it's worth remembering what, specifically, happened to Freddie Gray. An officer made eye contact with Gray. Gray, for unknown reasons, ran. The officer and his colleagues then detained Gray. They found him in possession of a switchblade. They arrested him while he yelled in pain. And then, within an hour, his spine was mostly severed. A week later, he was dead. What specifically was the crime here? What particular threat did Freddie Gray pose? Why is mere eye contact and then running worthy of detention at the hands of the state? Why is Freddie Gray dead?
The people now calling for nonviolence are not prepared to answer these questions. Many of them are charged with enforcing the very policies that led to Gray's death, and yet they can offer no rational justification for Gray's death and so they appeal for calm. But there was no official appeal for calm when Gray was being arrested. There was no appeal for calm when Jerriel Lyles was assaulted. (“The blow was so heavy. My eyes swelled up. Blood was dripping down my nose and out my eye.”) There was no claim for nonviolence on behalf of Venus Green. (“Bitch, you ain’t no better than any of the other old black bitches I have locked up.”) There was no plea for peace on behalf of Starr Brown. (“They slammed me down on my face,” Brown added, her voice cracking. “The skin was gone on my face.")
When nonviolence is preached as an attempt to evade the repercussions of political brutality, it betrays itself. When nonviolence begins halfway through the war with the aggressor calling time out, it exposes itself as a ruse. When nonviolence is preached by the representatives of the state, while the state doles out heaps of violence to its citizens, it reveals itself to be a con. And none of this can mean that rioting or violence is "correct" or "wise," any more than a forest fire can be "correct" or "wise." Wisdom isn't the point tonight. Disrespect is. In this case, disrespect for the hollow law and failed order that so regularly disrespects the rioters themselves.
Of course I'm against police brutality and abuse. I just don't see how burning down your neighborhood is going to fix that.I lose respect and sympathy for your cause when all you do is burn random buildings and attack anyone that has different color skin than you.
It's good to hear you are against police abuse and brutality!![]()
Of course I'm against police brutality and abuse. I just don't see how burning down your neighborhood is going to fix that.
Of course I'm against police brutality and abuse. I just don't see how burning down your neighborhood is going to fix that.I lose respect and sympathy for your cause when all you do is burn random buildings and attack anyone that has different color skin than you.
It's good to hear you are against police abuse and brutality!![]()
Riots like that do no good for either side of the issue. Scum like the KKK use such events as "evidence" against the black community, justifying their racist attitude.
Riots like that do no good for either side of the issue. Scum like the KKK use such events as "evidence" against the black community, justifying their racist attitude.
The idea that citizens need to meek and sheeplike so as not to incur the wrath of other citizens who are sworn to protect them is troubling to say the least.
We have a similar situation brewing here in Madison, Wisconsin, where a black youth who was high on psilocybin mushrooms was running around in traffic and had battered at least one person; he ran into a house, a police officer entered, the young man punched him in the head and he was shot and killed. The Young, Gifted and Black Coalition has been marching almost daily to protest what they call the murder of this young man, and while the district attorney has not decided whether to press charges against the officer
The biggest thing America could do to end police brutality is end the war on poverty and the war on drugs.
We have a similar situation brewing here in Madison, Wisconsin, where a black youth who was high on psilocybin mushrooms was running around in traffic and had battered at least one person; he ran into a house, a police officer entered, the young man punched him in the head and he was shot and killed. The Young, Gifted and Black Coalition has been marching almost daily to protest what they call the murder of this young man, and while the district attorney has not decided whether to press charges against the officer
Can't see any reason for him to be charged. He was obviously a danger to society and then he attacked a police officer. If I'm carrying a gun and some guy high on shoots starts punching me I'm probably gonna shoot him.
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