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Villains that you absolutely despise

Since 24 was brought up, Cheng Zhi was a completely despicable villain. However, that may actually be a symptom of the bad writing. He was a one-dimensional a-hole, for sure, but the sloppy writing allowed him to get away with crap time and time again for the sake of keeping the plot going (i.e. assaulting and kidnapping a federal agent on American soil... without repercussion... just to get to another federal agent).

That being said, his one-dimensional douchebaggery during season four was still more menacing than Marwan and his magical mystery tour of Rube Goldberg terrorism and Houdini escape abilities.
 
Marwan and various other terrorist villains on 24 are the type I absolutely despise. But my definition of "despise" means villains I don't respect because they are poorly written and in some cases poorly acted. Byron of B5 is another prime example. Or the Borg Queen, who undermined the very concept of the Borg. Bad villains screw up a story.

Darth Vader is a great villain. He's what a villain should be (if you're not going for the complex Dukat/Scopius type). Anakin Skywalker is a bad villain. He's pathetic and weak when he should be tragic but strong.

There were some gut-wrenchingly awful villains on Oz, but none of them were "bad" - the acting was great and the writing generally pretty on-target.
 
Aragorn said:
Since 24 was brought up, Cheng Zhi was a completely despicable villain. However, that may actually be a symptom of the bad writing. He was a one-dimensional a-hole, for sure, but the sloppy writing allowed him to get away with crap time and time again for the sake of keeping the plot going (i.e. assaulting and kidnapping a federal agent on American soil... without repercussion... just to get to another federal agent).
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Cheng's one dimensionality may be deliberate. I've heard that there's a Chinese version of 24 that uses the scripts almost word for word. I also heard they wrote Cheng one dimensionally as a joke on the Chinese. It's what I've heard but I've never seen any proof that they did that on purpose.
 
tomalak301 said:
President Logan from I believe it was Season 5. It was the season with the treasonous President and the cover-up scandal. Itsin played the president so very well but Logan was such a bitch. It was great when the wife bitch slapped him.
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Logan was one of the greatest villains I have ever seen in one of the greatest shows ever made. Season 5 was such a clever piece of writing, and even when Logan goes down at the end, he goes down quietly. It was utterly brilliant and chilling.
 
Jack Bauer said:
Aragorn said:
Since 24 was brought up, Cheng Zhi was a completely despicable villain. However, that may actually be a symptom of the bad writing. He was a one-dimensional a-hole, for sure, but the sloppy writing allowed him to get away with crap time and time again for the sake of keeping the plot going (i.e. assaulting and kidnapping a federal agent on American soil... without repercussion... just to get to another federal agent).
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Cheng's one dimensionality may be deliberate. I've heard that there's a Chinese version of 24 that uses the scripts almost word for word. I also heard they wrote Cheng one dimensionally as a joke on the Chinese. It's what I've heard but I've never seen any proof that they did that on purpose.
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Cheng plays the role of the mysterious guy in the background who you never know when he will strike next. He has strong motive to strike back at Jack Bauer, and I'm sure they will use him well in the future. I have never been dissapointed with Cheng's appearance, and I love his tenacity for revenge. He is such a great villain, who's not really a villain... he actually is tenacious for justice for what happened at the consulate.

I love the way 24 has some of these recurring characters in the background, looming, where you dont know what they will do next, or if they will do anything at all. It's a brilliant piece of story design and it's what saved the last part of season 6 for me.
 
Shane Vendrell from The Shield. I've despised him since the first episode.

I never liked Vic either, but Shane's a prick that needs to die and I hope it's at Vic's hands.

I'll also throw in Armadillo from season 2.
 
Definitely Louise Fletcher's Nurse Ratched in One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest, total dominating controller of doom who I despised completely, cheering as Jack went crazy on her neck.
 
M'Sharak said:
Babaganoosh said:
M'Sharak said:
Even Louise Fletcher's Nurse Ratched in One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest wasn't so thoroughly unsympathetic a character.
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Kai Winn, on the other hand... :lol:
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...also had moments where you could almost feel sorry for her.
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Like what? The moment she died?

I'll give Winn one thing, though. She is a graduate of the Benjamin Stone School Of Making One Word Sound Like A Devastating Insult. With Stone, it's "sir". Winn? "Child." Every time she called Kira that, I felt as angry as Kira probably did.
 
I'd have to say Charles Logan was a pathetic bad guy. A lot of that has to do with the crappy writing of season five, which clearly didn't have him as the big boss to start off. There were elements of the show that were good once he became a bad guy, but since making him said bad guy was a major false note, it did diminish the value.

The best 24 villains were when the stakes were either personal or the goals weren't over the top -- Gaines was probably the best, followed by Saunders.
 
Babaganoosh said:
M'Sharak said:
Babaganoosh said:
Kai Winn, on the other hand... :lol:
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...also had moments where you could almost feel sorry for her.
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Like what? The moment she died?

I'll give Winn one thing, though. She is a graduate of the Benjamin Stone School Of Making One Word Sound Like A Devastating Insult. With Stone, it's "sir". Winn? "Child." Every time she called Kira that, I felt as angry as Kira probably did.
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I'll admit that I always liked Kai Winn, but she reminds me a lot of politicians that I know in real life. Believe it or not Hillary Clinton is not included in a description of the Kai Winn's. When I met Barack Obama, however, he was. This isn't the time or place for such things though.
 
Kazuo Kiriyami from Battle Royale.
He just killed anyone he ran into and was plane brutal and nasty. So happy when he died
 
daeana said:
Babaganoosh said:
M'Sharak said:
...also had moments where you could almost feel sorry for her.
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Like what? The moment she died?
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the moments where you remember the hell the cardassians put members of bajoran religious orders through...
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Religious orders which Winn openly rejected in the end (she defected to the Pah Wraiths).

And we really have no idea how she fared during the occupation. Did we see it? All we have to go on is what she said. And obviously, nothing Winn says can be accepted at face value. Even if she did endure the occupation close-up, that doesn't excuse what she did. If she killed a lot of Cardassians, then it might. But she was just a power-hungry bitch. She even continued to associate with Dukat after she found out he *was* a Cardassian!
 
Favorite villians:

Iago (from Othello): Watch or read this play. Iago isn't a misunderstood man, he's not someone who was "abused by society" or any garbage, he is just an evil bastard. He knows he's a villian and he thrives on it!

Hans Gruber (Die Hard): Basically any Alan Rickman villian is excellent, but Hans was awesome. I love his delivery of lines like "I could discuss men's fashions all day, but I'm afraid work must intrude" just before he coldly kills the president of the Nakatomi Corporation.

Rutger Hauer's "Hitcher" from "The Hitcher:" I haven't seen the remake, but Rutger Hauer as the psychopatchic hitchhiker is fantastic. He basically spends the entire movie killing everyone BUT his victim (who he merely toys with for 90 minutes of film). There is no remorse, no repentance. NICE!
 
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