Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by DaveyNY, Sep 8, 2023.
We will *all* be dead before Star Trek is.
A little of both but also it's something that likely didn't cost much money in terms of special effects. So it's way to do those things without spending lots of money as well.
And that was the moment when Riker regretted turning down Q's offer to make him a Q and vowed to someday get those powers back someday.
It's an attitude thing.
I don't think anybody (other than the people who hate it and will tack it on their string wall with a post it note "Proof that THEY are intentionally trying to DESTROY (Real) STAR TREK" with a line going to J.J. Abrams and Kathleen Kennedy) will remember this a year from now.
Star Trek is not a precious object or a rare gem or even a vital food source. But none of this so far gives off the vibe of "Hey, take it easy, we all love Star Trek."
Wake Up And Smile
Who thinks this was edgy?
Myself, I'm disappointed no one said "booger".
They are just a bit of value-added material. They are supposed to be a bit of a throwaway gift that hopefully we can take something pleasant from.
They are easily ignored and even better for those taking up arms, easily forgotten.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think either has been that funny. I suppose Peck lifted the second one a lot. They are what they are. Nothing to get worked up about.
Edgy by Trek standards. The first one dances around the concept of cancel culture before the entire crew dies and the second one has Spock using murder and violence as setup for jokes. I mean Bill Burr it is not but it does have a little bit of a bite for what is and for what franchise is is coming from.
I know "Lower Decks" is suppose to be the "Rick and Morty" as a Trek show but it isn't. "Lower Decks" appeal is the characters are fun to hang with for 30 minutes plus the references and frankly cool space graphics and artwork but it still fits in well with the positive vibes the franchise is known for.
Lower Decks is not supposed to be Rick and Morty. Lower Decks is Futurama wearing Star Trek colours.
I can guess at juvenile jokes, but I’m not sure what “ boomer humor” is. I’ve never heard that term before. Is there a definition?
I don't think it's either. Probably closer to Futurama than Rick and Morty though.
It refers to people of the boomer generation - and those who share the stereotypical mindset - that reject society progressing from what they grew up with. So the captain can't say anything "normal" without "offending" "special" people. Spock, instead of being coded neurodivergent, is incapable of understanding emotions despite experiencing them.
ignores Final Space.
I can see a little bit of RIck and Morty at the start with Mariner being kind of a RIck and Boimer being kind of a Morty but kind of evolved into something more along the lines of Futurama meets a Ted Lasso cartoon aimed at kids.
I don't know what that is.
If you laughed really hard you likely just watched or listened to Boomer humor. If you mildy chuckled or have more of smile on your face as oppose to gasping for air after laughing to much, or do this.
then you likely just listened to the more uplifting good-natured other kind of humor.
Now that’s more like it. I was laughing hard.
I don't really have a dog in this fight (I'm not particularly well-versed in TAS), but it certainly possible to love and celebrate something and enjoy making fun of it sometimes.
See Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein, Young Frankenstein, Monty Python & the Holy Grail, and (showing my age) any number of classic Carol Burnett Show sketches.
With the possible exception of, say, "The Diary of Ann Frank," I like to think that most everything is fair game for parody. It's not necessarily a sign of contempt or disrespect.
Even regular Trek makes fun of itself at times.
Garak not liking Earl Grey Tea
Worf's "We don't speak to outsider about it" in regards to the TOS Klingons in the Tribble episode.
Riker using fake technobabble to confuse the Ferengi in "Rascals"
For a few examples.
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