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News Variety Reports Robert Pattinson is the new Batman

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I think there's a big difference between "I'll base my symbol on something that irrationally frightens me and a lot of other people, especially criminals who are a superstitious and cowardly lot" and "I'll wear the actual physical object that murdered my parents on my chest." The former is understandable -- the latter is sick and depraved.
I disagree. I think it would be an irrational choice, but also a constant reminder of why he does what he does. Again, give the psychological trauma Bruce has been through it isn't as out there for the character as it might appear be to us.
 
I disagree. I think it would be an irrational choice, but also a constant reminder of why he does what he does.

I hardly think Bruce needs an external reminder of that. And Batman's rejection or outright hatred of guns has been a defining trait of the character since he was barely a year old, despite the grossly false revisionist histories that get propagated today. It would make sense for, say, the Punisher to have an emblem literally made of guns (and the title logo for his TV series essentially did just that), but it would be a fundamental misunderstanding of Batman as a character.


Again, give the psychological trauma Bruce has been through it isn't as out there for the character as it might appear be to us.

Too many people today twist what Batman does into a symptom of his pathology. What he does is healing. It lets him direct his pain and trauma toward a positive goal, using it to spare others from similar pain. For all that he adopted the Bat-emblem as a symbol of fear, his actions turned it into a symbol of hope, a beacon that rallies the good citizens of Gotham and comforts the afflicted. A logo made out of an actual murder weapon would not do that.
 
I hardly think Bruce needs an external reminder of that. And Batman's rejection or outright hatred of guns has been a defining trait of the character since he was barely a year old, despite the grossly false revisionist histories that get propagated today. It would make sense for, say, the Punisher to have an emblem literally made of guns (and the title logo for his TV series essentially did just that), but it would be a fundamental misunderstanding of Batman as a character.




Too many people today twist what Batman does into a symptom of his pathology. What he does is healing. It lets him direct his pain and trauma toward a positive goal, using it to spare others from similar pain. For all that he adopted the Bat-emblem as a symbol of fear, his actions turned it into a symbol of hope, a beacon that rallies the good citizens of Gotham and comforts the afflicted. A logo made out of an actual murder weapon would not do that.
Again, I disgree. I think dismantling that weapon to make his symbol could be an interesting concept. It's not twisting it in to pathology-it's recognizing that Bruce might just see the world differently than others.

Again, it's not just made out of guns. It's disassembled guns reformed in to his symbol. I think it has potential, but I can see the other side too.

Your point is well taken. I just disagree.
 
You can see his eye in the picture. Very homemade looking cowl.

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Sure, if your sample size is only those influenced by Frank Miller.

Look how Aparo drew him. Or Maguire.

Batman has often been depicted as fit and flexible. Think more Bruce Lee, not Affleck. And I think that makes more sense. He’s a martial artist not a boxer.

Or Denny O'Neil.
 
I don't care much for the angularness of the chest piece but I like the bat symbol, the cowl and especially the shoulder attachments of the cape. Looking pretty good so far.
 
I don't care much for the angularness of the chest piece but I like the bat symbol, the cowl and especially the shoulder attachments of the cape. Looking pretty good so far.
My guess is that this is meant to be a first stage suit. It could be the suit for the entire movie with a new suit coming if future installments happen.
 
Not much of a fan of this yet although in it's defense the design of the Bat symbol is similar in shape to the bat chest symbol in the very early comics (lacking ears). It's also cool from a kids perspective that it's probably a baterang. Don't like the bulkyness of the cape at the back BUT it makes sense to have Batman protect his neck, which other suits lacked. Need to see more. My favorite is the dark knight suit and returns suit.
 
That cowl is easily the worst looking one (I'm including Adam West's in that statement), and the logo is another example of a superhero movie being embarrassed by its source material so it tries to make something "realistic" (just make it a yellow oval with a bat logo already), so this really doesn't bode well. The last thing DC needs is another "hyper realistic" Batman. Its like how (in my opinion) James Bond has gotten very boring after 10+ years of having no fun gadgets or crazy villains, all in the name of "realism". Just let Batman kick ass and be Batman without worrying if he looks like something that someone could be in real life.

That said, as long as this Batman isn't literally murdering people with guns like in Snyder's crap movies, this won't be the worst Batman by far. Its just looking like it won't be a good Batman, at least based off the suit and casting, and that kind of sucks now that DC has actually put out some good movies but just can't leave Nolan's "realism" shit behind them for Batman.
 
Predictable as always. :lol:
I love how "realism" is looked down upon in this setting :rommie:

Batman is probably among the more grounded of the DC superheroes. He is the "world's greatest detective" and a martial arts expert. He doesn't have any other super powers. He makes sense to have some more realistic elements.

Whatever, at this point. There have been so many iterations of Batman that there are bound to be complaints.
 
Batman is probably among the more grounded of the DC superheroes. He is the "world's greatest detective" and a martial arts expert. He doesn't have any other super powers. He makes sense to have some more realistic elements.

Indeed. From Year One onward, the tendency was to approach Batman comics as fairly grounded crime drama, with exaggerated threats and grotesque villains but not a lot of fantasy/sci-fi elements. Batman was more likely to face mass murderers or deranged religious cults or citywide earthquakes than alien invaders or evil sorcerors or what-have-you.
 
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