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News Variety Reports Robert Pattinson is the new Batman

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The original IM movie was a success primarily because of the charismatic performance of RDJ and his on screen chemistry with Paltrow. I don't really have evidence for this, but I have always assumed that Marvel just ran with the personality that he brought to the role because it was such an integral part of the character's on screen appeal.

Yep. I enjoyed it enormously when I saw it, but reflecting on it afterwards, I realized that its plot was an entirely by-the-numbers, routine superhero origin story. What made it so effective was that Favreau just used that superficial plot as a framework within which the actors were set free to improvise, and it was their charismatic performances that made it compelling.
 
I think you are spot on with that. Salman Rushdie said something similar about the film. He enjoyed it immensely but was disappointed that the plot itself didn't live up to the performance of the actors or something like that.
 
Pretty much. The real difference between Iron Man and Green Lantern is Robert Downey versus Ryan Reynolds.

The stories are weak, the climaxes are meh, and Reynolds is okay...but he's not Downey.
 
Pretty much. The real difference between Iron Man and Green Lantern is Robert Downey versus Ryan Reynolds.

The stories are weak, the climaxes are meh, and Reynolds is okay...but he's not Downey.

And Jeff Bridges as the bad guy was more interesting than a CGI cloud.
 
Pretty much. The real difference between Iron Man and Green Lantern is Robert Downey versus Ryan Reynolds.

The stories are weak, the climaxes are meh, and Reynolds is okay...but he's not Downey.
I agree (and I’m actually quite fond of the Green Lantern movie flaws and all).
 
Pretty much. The real difference between Iron Man and Green Lantern is Robert Downey versus Ryan Reynolds.

Well that and Iron Man was better written, better acted, coherently plotted and wasn't afraid to break "sacred" rules of Superheroism.

The stories are weak, the climaxes are meh

We're not talking about the Nolan movies, where the plots are predictable and the characters a bunch of archetypes rather than actual characters.

Not really very much...which was surprising, for Bridges. He was given a stock character and hit his marks.

He was better than Hackman's Lex Luthor. Or Liam Neeson's Ra's Al Ghul.

Seriously, anytime a villain isn't the real lead of the movie they somehow always get called "Stock". Folks just can't handle it when the hero is the actual main character of their own movie.
 
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Well that and Iron Man was better written, better acted, coherently plotted and wasn't afraid to break "sacred" rules of Superheroism.



We're not talking about the Nolan movies, where the plots are predictable and the characters a bunch of archetypes rather than actual characters.



He was better than Hackman's Lex Luthor. Or Liam Neeson's Ra's Al Ghul.

Seriously, anytime a villain isn't the real lead of the movie they somehow always get called "Stock". Folks just can't handle it when the hero is the actual main character of their own movie.
Yawn.
 
Who wants a bulked up Batman? He should be a ninja not a tank.


Batman is rarely a string bean. He's usually depicted as someone who works out daily for hours on end

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Sure, if your sample size is only those influenced by Frank Miller.

Look how Aparo drew him. Or Maguire.

Batman has often been depicted as fit and flexible. Think more Bruce Lee, not Affleck. And I think that makes more sense. He’s a martial artist not a boxer.
 

Burton and Nolan both admitted that their stories are more about the villains than Batman. He's not interesting as his own character to drive a story because the writers made him close allies with Gordon and Alfred instead of having him clash with them both more often and their internal conflict being the core of the plot.

Sure, if your sample size is only those influenced by Frank Miller.

Look how Aparo drew him. Or Maguire.

Batman has often been depicted as fit and flexible. Think more Bruce Lee, not Affleck. And I think that makes more sense. He’s a martial artist not a boxer.

He IS supposed to be tall, but yes you're right he has always been more "Modern Ninja" than "Human Tank".

I just hope they don't go for that silliness wherein the people of Gotham think he's an Urban Legend and not that he really exists.
 
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Batman is rarely a string bean. He's usually depicted as someone who works out daily for hours on end

I don't care for those overmuscled portrayals, though, since they're an unrealistic model of athleticism, based on the appearance of bodybuilders whose muscles are oversized for display. Strong, athletic people who really use their muscles in action tend to be considerably leaner.

And Batman's supposed to be one of the world's greatest martial artists as well as a master gymnast. So a tank-like, Schwarzeneggeresque build doesn't seem appropriate for that. His own bulk would slow him down.
 
Pattinson in costume may resolve some criticisms; I look forward to seeing him in it. If Pattinson is not for ones liking, no worries, there will be another actor portraying role some day.
 
I'm not that concerned with Patton not bulking up, Batman doesn't have to be that big.
 
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