Variations of the post-Nemesis Prime Universe

[Nightdiamond]

Trek shouldn't be about how advanced the tech is anyway...it should be about telling good stories in an exotic sci-fi setting. The trick is having a level of tech that inspires awe and wonder in the audience but doesn't solve all of the characters' problems in-story.

Agreed, though TNG started out of the gate dazzling us with new tech. It was pretty fresh and new, for a while anyway.

I wonder if they'll go back to the well (time travel, techno babble ect) or if they'll go in another direction. I think it may be a mistake to revisit the old ideas, because it has been done too many times. A little risky.

At one time, weren't each of those things new and fresh? Coming up with concepts and plot ideas that have never been heard of before is the challenge for the writing team.

If they're up to it.

Definitely, at one time things like time travel was fresh and interesting. The City on the Edge of Forever - it really felt like the crew traveled back in time.

But the later shows kept going back to the time travel plots and it became less and less mysterious. By the time we got to Voyager, the concept had jumped the shark.

No one is really awed or surprised when it happens anymore. It may have been one of the things that led to the infamous franchise fatigue.

Here are some of the things that (from my view) that used to excite trek fans, but may not anymore;
Artificial intelligence - not anymore thanks to holograms
Faster than warp travel-- has been done, not a mystery
Other dimensions- experienced multiple times
Big alien superpowers- Borg, Dominion- we've fought them already, and figured out how to beat them

I wonder what the new show format will be like. Is it better to keep some things a mystery?

 

[Scotchy]

From that view point, we could go forward from shortly after the time of Cochrane's warp flight.

Zephrem Cochrane's first warp flight was in 2063, which is the 21st Century. When I said TOS (The Original Series, featuring Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock) in my original post - that is set in the 23rd century, much later than Cochrane.

In a short period of time (perspective of first four series) Humanity had warp engines that were capable of reaching the edge of the galaxy and into the Delta Quadrant.

There's almost 200 years between the first warp flight and Kirk's journey to the edge of the Milky Way, I don't consider that a short time.
Voyager didn't use warp engines to arrive in the Delta quadrant, an alien brought them there. The central problem of the series was that to go home it would take them an impractical 75 years to traverse the 70,000 light year distance using their warp drive.

Of the examples you gave, only "Spock's brain" was an example of advanced technology.

Dr. Sevrin's fungus ears weren't goofy enough to qualify??? In any case, you're incorrect....

Is the Doomsday Machine eating planets that much different than a starship using a bussard collector to acquire fuel?

I think it is. Bussard collectors don't destroy entire planets for starters. They don't destroy anything. They don't process planetary debris into fuel. The Doomsday machine used an antiproton beam weapon to cut planets apart, a technology more advanced than what Starfleet used. The Machine had a hull composed of neutronium armor, an impenetrable substance that was far more advanced than what was used in Starfleet hulls:
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Neutronium
That's advanced technology even by Starfleet standards.

Tech "goofiness" reached full steam in the 24th century.

I disagree. In the 23rd century we have (just to name a few):
People being converted into little chalk blocks and then back into people again like magic in By Any Other Name.
Aliens using a magic wand (that bald fellow was goofy enough, but waving a wand?) in Catspaw.
The Tholian's web, considered by some to be a little goofy.
The entire Enterprise being "transformed" into a little model not once, but twice that I can remember.
There's plenty of "goofy" tech to go around for each series, in my opinion.
I thought they had more consistent, credible tech featured in TNG (the 24th century.)
That being said, I stick with my original hope. I hope they don't do anymore retro storylines, they get tedious after a while. New concepts is a challenge for the writers - one they've more or less lived up to during all the Star Trek series and movies that span half a century. Given that track record, I am prepared to be optimistic about the new show. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Tenacity]

There's almost 200 years between the first warp flight and Kirk's journey to the edge of the Milky Way, I don't consider that a short time.

By the time the Enterprise recovered the SS Valiant's record-marker at the edge of of the galaxy in WNMHGB, the ship had been missing for over two centuries. This mean it would had to of left Earth within a few years of Cochrane's warp flight.

Voyager didn't use warp engines to arrive in the Delta quadrant, an alien brought them there.

Friendship One was a UESPA unmanned space probe launched from Earth in the year 2067, contact was maintained with it until the year 2248. Friendship One did eventually reach the Delta quadrant.

 

[Scotchy]

By the time the Enterprise recovered the SS Valiant's record-marker at the edge of of the galaxy in WNMHGB, the ship had been missing for over two centuries. This mean it would had to of left Earth within a few years of Cochrane's warp flight.

Valiant was swept to the edge by a magnetic storm, so it's questionable whether it could've reached the edge on it's own in any kind of reasonable timeframe.
Cochrane made his flight in 2063, Kirk's Star Trek took place took place around the 2260's. From your previous post you make it sound like 4 years after Cochrane's flight starships were cruising the Delta Quadrant. Archer's issues with the Vulcans holding back Earth's warp program would indicate otherwise. It was necessary to have over 200 years of warp tech development between Cochrane and Kirk and even a century after that in the 2370s Voyager's journey home from Delta would still have taken 75 years, hardly practical.

Friendship One was a UESPA unmanned space probe launched from Earth in the year 2067, contact was maintained with it until the year 2248. Friendship One did eventually reach the Delta quadrant.

Friendship 1 was an unmanned probe, we're talking manned starships here. That probe took centuries to reach the Delta Quadrant. New Horizons might eventually reach the Delta Quadrant too, without the benefit of any warp tech, but that doesn't really mean "humanity can reach the Delta Quadrant." No living human on board, right? Just Clyde's ashes.
As an aside, I always found it a little hard to believe that Voyager ran into so much Alpha Quadrant stuff. The galaxy is a big place but - oh, look it's Amelia Earhardt! It's a Cardassian weapon that B'Elanna reprogrammed! Please. Hopefully the new series won't rely on some of those kinds of premises, speaking of which....
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A note on the new series Star Trek Discovery - it looks like Netflix will carry it, but not in the US. Seems like the new Trek will be unavailable via Netflix in the US and Canada so CBS can force people to sign up for their All Access nonsense. Too bad. I'll still be curious to see the pilot episode (however, from their descriptions so far I am somewhat underwhelmed).
http://www.cinemablend.com/television/1539370/where-star-trek-discovery-will-air