Vance's Schematics II
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Aridas, what i understood from your post was that Vance has no rights to complain, when people "steal" his toolkit, because he himself has "stolen" the designs for the parts (notably the Belknap, which i indeed attributed to be one of your designs), which would mean, that recreating those parts (what is exactly what Warhol did with the can of soup) does not entitle Vance to claim any rights.
So sorry, if i got you wrong.
So sorry, if i got you wrong.
..and since you wanted some of my work, something i whipped up after one of Matt Jeffries' designs for the Enterprise, made of course with Vance's Toolkit. From the parts i used this would date in the same timeframe as the Horizon, which i now tend to find too modern for the design, it works best as an much earlier design, probably for an alternate Enterprise era (i'm working on that).
http://www.hostpix.de/file.php?dat=0aCB683v.png
http://www.hostpix.de/file.php?dat=0aCB683v.png
No problem. What Vance is doing was not the subject of my post.
Vance said:
Achernar Class (SFPO)
Interesting that you chose to repost that particular illustration, Vance. I get your point. Nevertheless, there's an interesting story behind it. We corresponded with FJ about our desire to include his version of the Constitution-class in our works, because we were aware that it was different from the filmed versions that we were going to include. We didn't want to see his version forgotten. He wanted it presented in its original form, and we wanted to make Achernar a slightly-updated design, because of the other Constitution designs that were already to be included. So, what you get is the original version from the TM and BoP labeled as Achernar and the update that was to have been Achernar as a refit. It was a compromise to keep everyone happy.
Hey Guys
I'm looking at the Vancouver and I see some differences between it and the Belknap
One obvious as Vance pointed out is the second deflector, on the primary hull 2 the second is the primary hull connecting dorsal to the secondary is designed and connected in a different place as opposed to the Belknap. 3 if i remember correctly the Belknap uses an elliptical main deflector as opposed to a round one. 4 There seems to be an addition on the bottom fantail that is not on the Belknap. 5 I also think that the connection point for the warp pylons on the front view of the Belknap is much wider than the one shown on this ship. The Gentleman in question should have credited his design source but it looks like he's made some pretty drastic changes as well.
I'm looking at the Vancouver and I see some differences between it and the Belknap
One obvious as Vance pointed out is the second deflector, on the primary hull 2 the second is the primary hull connecting dorsal to the secondary is designed and connected in a different place as opposed to the Belknap. 3 if i remember correctly the Belknap uses an elliptical main deflector as opposed to a round one. 4 There seems to be an addition on the bottom fantail that is not on the Belknap. 5 I also think that the connection point for the warp pylons on the front view of the Belknap is much wider than the one shown on this ship. The Gentleman in question should have credited his design source but it looks like he's made some pretty drastic changes as well.
images are gone cus links to them have removed years ago
did you try searching photobucket? thats where i've seen large collections of the Vance schematics
These two are the only ones I'm aware of. Here's Vance's:
And here's another variant by Dirk Jansen:
They're on my own server at the SSDB, so they shouldn't go away for a long time (hopefully).
And here's another variant by Dirk Jansen:
They're on my own server at the SSDB, so they shouldn't go away for a long time (hopefully).
Thanks to all for your help.
Does Vance possibly go by another name on Photobucket? I have previously familiarized myself with aridas sofia's and Bernard Guignard's Photobuckets. But found nothing from Vance.
I am currently looking for any work that has been done on the Macon class.
Does Vance possibly go by another name on Photobucket? I have previously familiarized myself with aridas sofia's and Bernard Guignard's Photobuckets. But found nothing from Vance.
I am currently looking for any work that has been done on the Macon class.
^^^ That's the one. As for finding schematics, pjheilers, you will find a few of them there, but only the more recent ones he did - the ones in color. Many of the older grayscale designs you won't find there. I should, however, have them all archived after having spent several days cataloging them all. If you need to see all the stuff of his that I've collected you can find them on these pages. His stuff is usually towards the bottom of each page:
http://shipschematics.net/startrek/new_01_01_2010.php
http://shipschematics.net/startrek/new_02_10_2010.php
http://shipschematics.net/startrek/new_02_11_2010.php (This one has his rare Klingon designs)
And, as you requested, here's the Macon:
http://shipschematics.net/startrek/new_01_01_2010.php
http://shipschematics.net/startrek/new_02_10_2010.php
http://shipschematics.net/startrek/new_02_11_2010.php (This one has his rare Klingon designs)
And, as you requested, here's the Macon:
