USS Voyager (eventually) on Picard?

[Danja]

Only series that should have anything to do with the Picard series is TNG.
Seven's role has already made me think I'm losing interest.
But, depending on what she does in the new series it could get interesting?
I don't know.

She's a foil for Picard. She's Xena to Picard's Hercules.

She'll get in his face. She'll tell him things the Sirena (?) crew can't or won't. She's nowhere as infatuated with him as the Sirena crew.

Do you REALLY want three seasons of Picard bloviating about how wonderful humans are?

Like the Warrior Princess, Seven has MANY skills:

• She's an engineer.
• She's a former soldier with EXTENSIVE combat experience.
• She's an Unconventional Warfare Specialist (when one is stranded in the Delta Quadrant, one has to be creative).
• She knows weapons ***cough*** Twin Phasers ***cough***

 

[JesterFace]

Why? It's not like the events didn't happen around the same time...

I'm talking from a perspective of a TNG fan but not so much of the other series.
Other Trek series have their moments, I'm not saying they're bad.
For me it would make more sense if Picard series would continue where TNG ended without pulling in the spin-offs. Those are official Trek series but still.... I may be one of the few (or the one?) with this opinion but that's the way I feel about it. Who knows how Seven is introduced and how her backstory is explained? We don't know yet how things turn out.

Do you REALLY want three seasons of Picard bloviating about how wonderful humans are?

There was more than that in TNG.

 

[Sidewinder]

Only series that should have anything to do with the Picard series is TNG.
Seven's role has already made me think I'm losing interest.
But, depending on what she does in the new series it could get interesting?
I don't know.

I don't get this line of thinking unless you just didn't like DS9 or Voyager. That's your prerogative, but I really want to see what happened to my favorite characters after their respective shows. Nemesis didn't leave me as satisfied with wrapping up the TNG/DS9/VOY era.

I never watched and likely won't watch Enterprise or Discovery because I wanted to move forward with the Final Frontier, not backward. It's taken almost 20 years, but it's finally happening.

 

[Danja]

Who knows how Seven is introduced and how her backstory is explained? We don't know yet how things turn out.

I doubt TPTB will stray too far from established canon, given that Voyager is available for streaming on Amazon (Amazon is CBSAA's international distribution partner).

I can't see anyone going crazy with Seven's backstory (not when it's so easy to check against Voyager).

I never watched and likely won't watch Enterprise or Discovery because I wanted to move forward with the Final Frontier, not backward. It's taken almost 20 years, but it's finally happening.

Discovery just got blasted forwards into the 32nd century.

 

[fireproof78]

I'm talking from a perspective of a TNG fan but not so much of the other series.

That's fair, I guess. But Star Trek has been self referential for a while, starting with McCoy in first episode of TNG.

You also have Barclay and Troi appearing in VOY, Cochrane in Enterprise and the big references to the events of TUC from Unification.

I think many fans have been able to catch up with that, and I don't see why this show will be any different.

But, I'm neither a TNG or Picard, or Seven of Nine fan, so what do I know?

 

[Nerys Myk]

All the 24th Century shows are interrelated and inform each other. Almost like one really long show.

 

[NCC-73515]

Both the D and Voyager visited DS9, Geordi chased the Delta Flyer once, Barclay established contact with Voyager, an EMH mark I appeared in FC, Quark helped Riker find the Duras sisters, Riker's transporter copy from TNG appeared on DS9, the Cardassians, Bajorans & Maquis originated from TNG, then played major roles on DS9, but also carried over into VOY (with Seska, Chakotay's crew, the Crell Moset hologram, etc.), VOY met TNG/DS9 Romulans and Klingons, and the Ferengi from the TNG Barzan wormhole episode... Q of course... you can't fully separate these shows.

 

[The Wormhole]

And then Riker played with Captain Archer on the holodeck.

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

And then Riker played with Captain Archer on the holodeck.

Then again, Riker did "play" with quite a number of people on the holodeck...

 

[DaveyNY]

Heh...
Not as many as Barkley.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I never watched and likely won't watch Enterprise or Discovery because I wanted to move forward with the Final Frontier, not backward. It's taken almost 20 years, but it's finally happening.

As @Danja pointed out, Discovery's third season takes place some time around 3187, in the 32nd century. And it's a permanent move. Star Trek: Picard is just another prequel.

 

[Dukhat]

Star Trek: Picard is just another prequel.

I never thought of it that way, lol. Now that Star Trek Picard is yet another prequel, I’m totally boycotting it now.

 

[The Wormhole]

Now that Star Trek Picard is yet another prequel, I’m totally boycotting it now.

Yep. Star Trek is about moving forward. Why are we revisiting the 24th century characters in the 25th century now that Star Trek has gone to the 32nd century?
#franchisefatigue

 

[Boris Skrbic]

Yep. Star Trek is about moving forward. Why are we revisiting the 24th century characters in the 25th century now that Star Trek has gone to the 32nd century?
#franchisefatigue

But are we sure that the 32nd-century setting won’t simply become an exercise in “Where are they now?” That’s why I’m more interested in an evolving timeline running in tandem with our own (eg. 2019/20 mapping to a socially/technologically relevant 2396 because 1987/88 mapped to a socially/technologically relevant 2364), not time jumps. Just make a space jump instead and have a show about, I don’t know, life on Planet X with characters we’ve never seen before.

 

[Lord Garth]

But are we sure that the 32nd-century setting won’t simply become an exercise in “Where are they now?”

"Where are they now?" Dead.

 

[Boris Skrbic]

"Where are they now?" Dead.

Not necessarily (Dax, B-4) and the question also extends to families, homeworlds, interstellar governments or anything else one could think of that could be connected to something we’ve seen before.

 

[Timo]

The fun thing is, DS9 and VOY and even ENT concluded by making a big impact in the pseudohistory of the Trek universe. TNG, Picard's very own show, left no real mark; the concluding adventure went as far as actually undoing itself!

Events from all the other spinoffs warrant a mention in any glimpse to the 2390s. Indeed, it would be odd if they went unmentioned by the random man on the street or Starfleet employee or UFP adversary. But nothing Picard did really counts. He fought the Borg but didn't defeat them, leaving that to the VOY heroes; he dabbled in Klingon politics but let DS9 take care of the big picture. His ship was lost in a menial adventure, then another skirmished against trivial opponents.

So it is up to PIC to create the bit of pseudohistory that actually makes Picard's own work stand out. He's a good, solid savior of the universe like any Starfleet captain, but he's not the sort of superhero the media would be excited about twenty years after his last episode or ten years after his last movie. Nor does he get a promotion to Admiral or demigod, it seems...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Boris Skrbic]

But he was captain of not one but two Enterprises and famous for his missions as a negotiator between the episodes. Need to see the representative of Starfleet/Federation ideals? Call Picard and the Enterprise, who else?

 

[Timo]

He's essentially the guy who made bad things not happen. History doesn't remember things that never happened.

The odyssey of the Voyager did happen... Complete with televised fireworks.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Lord Garth]

Not necessarily (Dax, B-4) and the question also extends to families, homeworlds, interstellar governments or anything else one could think of that could be connected to something we’ve seen before.

I could see Dax being in Discovery. Not so much B-4, because he seems like someone who'd be dealt with in Picard. I think with everything else, I'm not even going to hazard a guess about.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Not necessarily (Dax, B-4) and the question also extends to families, homeworlds, interstellar governments or anything else one could think of that could be connected to something we’ve seen before.

I could see Dax being in Discovery. Not so much B-4, because he seems like someone who'd be dealt with in Picard. I think with everything else, I'm not even going to hazard a guess about.

There's a thread speculating who could show up in season 3.