Yeah I tend to agree that consensus would be a difficult thing to reach among a fan project. It's an interesting idea though. I love fan produced work.
USS ENTERPRISE HAYNES OWNERS MANUAL (Part 3)
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I second that. I recently purchased the book and the best cut aways are what SciPubTech have done and they are not even credited in this book. The best cut away of the Galileo was what they had done as a poster and is on Trek Geek blog. This is truly half assed work. I have watched and seen what fellow fans have produced in detail and they beat this book hands down. Warped9, you are one of those fans that truly does thorough detailed work that is well thought out.
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The funny thing about the excellent work of folks like Shaw and havoc and aridas and Warped9, is that not only do they put forth the greatest effort to get things accurate and right, but that they truly invest a huge amount of raw time into what they do, and the end result conveys that... for them, it's not just something to be marketed... it's truly a labor of love.
The funny thing about the excellent work of folks like Shaw and havoc and aridas and Warped9, is that not only do they put forth the greatest effort to get things accurate and right, but that they truly invest a huge amount of raw time into what they do, and the end result conveys that... for them, it's not just something to be marketed... it's truly a labor of love.
Technically the ship bridge faces front (as per original plans). The bridge is in the upper dome, and the turbolift door is behind the captain's chair. Hollywood messed it up.
(This is actually true. The original bridge set design had the lift where it belonged in relation to the exterior model, but the shots of the lift were blocked by Mr. Hunter in the captain's chair. Quickly, they swapped the panels in the rear, since they were fortunately designed to be modular, giving the offset we know and love.)
I want that too! A rep from DK once posted on one board or another I visit asking opinions for future projects. I said Trek, and he said "BOY would we love to!" but there was some problem or other I can't recall.
I just finished going through the bulk of my new copy of The Spaceship Handbook. This really is an awesome book and well worth it if you're into the subject matter. It's not really a book to read cover-to-cover although I almost did just that. It's more for skimming from section-to-section of subjects that interest you.
I like the way it lays the groundwork for how the fictional idea of the spaceship got started and evolved. It should also be noted that it focuses on fictional spaceships that at least gave a passing nod to the realities of spaceflight and what is/was considered technologically possible. For that reason you won't find anything on any of the popular SF vehicles from the '60s onward. Too bad because I suspect the authors and artists could probably do the TOS Enterprise more justice than the Haynes book.
Even so I really enjoyed learning in more detail the spaceship's evolution. And reading the section dealing with Heinlein's novel Rocket Ship Galileo I really do wonder if naming the TOS shuttlecraft Galileo could have been a tip-of-the hat to Heinlein's book and fictional spaceship.
If you're a 2001: A Space Odyssey fan then this book has solid material for you with excellent illustrations and details on the film's miniatures...assuming you can call a 54ft. model of the Discovery a miniature!
All around a superb book I highly recommend.
I like the way it lays the groundwork for how the fictional idea of the spaceship got started and evolved. It should also be noted that it focuses on fictional spaceships that at least gave a passing nod to the realities of spaceflight and what is/was considered technologically possible. For that reason you won't find anything on any of the popular SF vehicles from the '60s onward. Too bad because I suspect the authors and artists could probably do the TOS Enterprise more justice than the Haynes book.
Even so I really enjoyed learning in more detail the spaceship's evolution. And reading the section dealing with Heinlein's novel Rocket Ship Galileo I really do wonder if naming the TOS shuttlecraft Galileo could have been a tip-of-the hat to Heinlein's book and fictional spaceship.
If you're a 2001: A Space Odyssey fan then this book has solid material for you with excellent illustrations and details on the film's miniatures...assuming you can call a 54ft. model of the Discovery a miniature!
All around a superb book I highly recommend.
COULD SOMEBODY PLEASE GET SOME CONFIRMATION OF THIS ASSERTION!?!
Because every drawing I've ever seen of the bridge design has the turbolift right where it's always been, and nothing has ever surfaced to indicate that it was ever intended to be anywhere but where it ended up.
I can't confirm it, but there are a few shots in TOS, usually focused on Sulu and Chekov, where the turbolift door is directly behind them.
So... outer walls (with the consoles, viewscreen and turbo) remain stationary, while the center well (with the captain's chair, helm and nav) rotate to suit the situation.
Those shots aren't from directly in front of Sulu or Chekov, though.
They did play around with the lower section in "Where No Man Has Gone Before", but when regular production started, they went back to normal.
I mean, from an in-universe perspective.
There are a couple of legacy shots that have the bridge in the original place. There was a post here by a 'power that be' that explained what had happened in great detail, but I sadly don't remember who posted that or when.
The modular design of the bridge set was a stroke of genius, though. Aside from the swapping of the turbolift door, it also allowed for a lot more shots of the bridge and crew interaction itself, rather than the 'at the time' static shots of 'control rooms' that were more common. Hell, even TNG through ENT didn't learn this lesson well enough.
IDK... this shot seems to be pretty out of the norm...
A nice looking-down-at-an-angle view that wasn't often used.
A nice looking-down-at-an-angle view that wasn't often used.
It had to boom in from above. You couldn't just pull one of the side panels to get the shot and a more workable angle. (And, let's face it, this particular shot looks really bad...)
Well, I'd be very interested in seeing these "legacy shots", because I've got a few pics of the original bridge set under construction...
....and you will note that at this time (which specifically is what is being discussed), the upper deck is all one piece, making it impossible to "swap out" the turbolift with any of the other stations. They didn't make all the stations wild until regular production began and the bridge was pretty much completely rebuilt over at the Gower Street studio, after all the problems they had with the original version at the Culver City studio.
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When they took it a few steps further during the movies this approach also saved them a lot of time and money.