USS Discovery in TOS?

[johnnybear]

Kirk is definitely referring to the planet's finding rather than this new spaceship of a yet as unseen television series that will no doubt be upsetting the continuity of our favourite Trek just like Henry Winkler's show did a decade or more ago!
JB

 

[Khan 2.0]

maybe the re-remastered set can dub in a 'USS'

 

[Tim Thomason]

From what I could find, "Discovery" (not "discoveries") has been used in 50 Star Trek episodes (and one movie) across the six previous series:

Details from the USS Discovery, on Voyager's databanks, was downloaded by Rain Robinson in 1996. Thankfully, the crew prevented her from creating it 200 years ahead of schedule:

It's a shame, though. She was about to make the biggest Discovery.

The USS Discovery was actually created by the Vulcans prior to 2151:

A Vulcan ship made the unfortunate Discovery.

T'Pol talked about the ship's significance:

This could be a significant Discovery, Captain.

In fact, even T'Pau was a fan of the USS Discovery:

Word has already spread of the Discovery.

Well after the untold voyages of the 2250s, the Discovery was still performing heroic actions in Kirk's time, such as saving Doctor Korby's group:

Captain's log, Stardate 2712.4. A signal from planet Exo 3. Doctor Roger Korby has been located, he and part of his expedition remaining alive due to the Discovery.

Being notified, as we all know:

Uhura, notify the Discovery on subspace radio.

Of course, it wasn't all sunshine and roses:

Discovery which has cost the life of one of my crewmen.

The Dramia were confused about what ship McCoy was currently assigned (was he on the Discovery in 2251?):

We of Dramia wish to thank you, Doctor, for your Discovery.

Sybok, of course, was also searching for the legendary ship in 2287 (in addition to all the other nonsense going on):

My brothers, we have been chosen to undertake the greatest adventure of all time, ...the Discovery

The Discovery was still in service in 2351, where it was detected by Harry Kim. They ended up contacting the Romulans instead:

Captain's log, stardate 48579.4. The crew has been scanning constantly for anomalies that might help us shorten our journey home. Ensign Kim has reported an exciting Discovery.

The legendary Discovery was even commended by the evil Lore, of all people:

An ancient ritual still practiced when they celebrate events of importance. My brother, I toast our Discovery.

It appears the Barzans were in command of the famous Discovery during the 2360s:

Your Discovery has produced a great deal of excitement, Premier.

But Starfleet gained it back again, soon after:

The opportunity for Discovery is extraordinary but I don't understand Starfleet's urgency.

Was it actually a refit or a successor ship? Picard seems to have been in charge of construction on the Discovery:

I seem to have made a rather disturbing Discovery.

The Discovery, whether it was owned by the Barzans or back in Starfleet hands, appeared to be stationed on Earth:

Then I must assume your decision is related to the Discovery on Earth.

Not just Picard, but Professor Galen also took part in (re)construction of the Discovery. Was it refitted for archaeological digs?

The work continued. I made a Discovery.

The Discovery appears to have been instrumental in ending the Cardassian Occupation and maintaining peace for Bajor:

Things have changed, Tahna. With the Discovery.

Even the Grand Nagus of Ferenginar praised the famed hero ship:

Thanks to the Discovery.

But it appears that Cardassia had an information embargo on the Discovery (didn't want to inspire the populace, I assume). Also, Rugal spoke highly of the Discovery:

Has the news of your son's Discovery become public knowledge on Cardassia?

The Discovery was faster than Sisko's Bajoran solar ship. Which makes sense, and I feel the race was unfair:

Your voyage is a testament to the spirit of the ancient Bajorans who first ventured out into space. It could not be more appropriate that your arrival coincides with the Discovery.

The Discovery's involvement in Bajor is name-checked by a crazed Sisko:

No, I was there. I could smell the burning bateret leaves, taste the incense on the wind. I was standing in front of the obelisk and as I looked up, for one moment I understood it all. B'hala, the Orbs, the occupation, the Discovery.

The Voyager sometimes checked their logs with that of the Discovery's earlier observations. Did the Discovery once travel through the Delta Quadrant?:

Captain's log, supplemental. We've completed sensor scans and confirmed our Discovery.

Torres, in a bout of hallucinogenic hysteria, once believed that she was in command of the USS Discovery:

No, no. This is my Discovery. It's my mission. You don't understand.

What does murder have to do with the Discovery? That was an out-of-the-blue assumption. Unless the Discovery had left Barzan/Earth space for the Delta Quadrant prior to Voyager's arrival:

That is no justification for murder. Doctor Vatm, why did you try to launch without us? Does it have to do with the Discovery?

In fact, it most certainly did. The Voth found the Discovery, apparently, adrift in space:

Let's talk about your Discovery. I enjoyed the colourful tale of how you found these remains. It says here that you paid a substantial sum for their location.

----

That's not what I'm saying at all. However, in the light of my Discovery, some of our beliefs may have to be re-evaluated.

----

They don't need to be. The evidence will speak for itself. And word of my Discovery is already travelling.

The Voth apparently were forced to give the ship to some mad scientists bent on destroying the universe:

Our resources are nearly gone. The future of my people depends on this Discovery.

----

I think I do. I'll inform the captain of your Discovery. For now, her orders stand.

Arturis thought that the Discovery should be inspiring Voyager everyday. And it should:

Captain. I won't pretend to know you well, but I am surprised you're not more encouraged by this Discovery.

Dax wanted to be involved in the Discovery's next refit:

But I didn't. I was so bent on making some great Discovery that I missed it.

And apparently the Doctor is now claiming to have created the Discovery (and insulting it, too). You were a hologram activated on Voyager. There's no way you created the ship!:

I've made a troubling Discovery.

Neelix, however, knew of the rumors of the Discovery, and eventually made his way to thanking Starfleet members for having created such a magnificant ship:

Ah! Just the Daughter of the Empire I've been looking for. I wanted to be the first to congratulate you on your Discovery.

Oh, come on! Seven definitely could not have constructed the Discovery (unless the Relativity was involved):

Captain's log, stardate 53167.9. After two days, there's been no sign of the Vaadwaur or the Turei. However, Seven of Nine has made an unsettling Discovery.

The Voyager crew, finally caught on that the Discovery was nearby, and of course, expected (or not) to be saved by them on a regular basis. Seven was also less-than-impressed by the Discovery, unlike the excitable Chakotay:

We can't predict what we might find here, Seven. One must allow for the unexpected Discovery.

----

You're excited by this Discovery?

But Janeway otherwise kept the Discovery a secret from her crew. A fact questioned by Tuvok (read up on history, Tuvok - it was actually the Vulcans who created Discovery):

Have you informed anyone else of your Discovery?

And now Doctor Zimmerman is claiming to have made the Discovery. Perhaps he made the holodeck that was installed on it:

Doctor Zimmerman ran a diagnostic on my subtronic relays and he made a very interesting Discovery.

And, of course, pre-warp civilizations in the far reaches of the Delta Quadrant knew exactly what the Discovery was, and was expecting it to show up from time-to-time:

That's exactly the problem. Where is the mistaken identity, the Discovery?

All other references, which I don't quite understand in context:

Captain's Log, stardate 2713.5. In the distant reaches of our galaxy, we have made an astonishing Discovery. Earth type radio signals coming from a planet which apparently is an exact duplicate of the Earth. It seems impossible, but there it is.

Kirk out. Seventy two alive. A group of people dating back to the 1990s. A Discovery of some importance, Mister Spock. There are a great many unanswered questions about those years.

Absolutely none, Captain. Berthold rays are such a recent Discovery. We do not yet have full knowledge of their nature. It is known, however, that living animal tissue disintegrates under exposure. Sandoval's group could not have survived after three years.

Wait, Captain, not so fast. We have an opportunity here for scientific Discovery.

I believe a very important scientific Discovery awaits us on this heading.

Not at all. Our Discovery of the freighter was unexpected. We have a duty to investigate.

Captain's log, supplemental. On my order, Data's startling Discovery of a possible life form has been beamed aboard so that its true nature might be uncovered. But unlike life on Earth and elsewhere, it appears to be completely inorganic.

----

We have confirmed that Data's Discovery is life. But more than that, it is intelligent life.

Captain's log, Stardate 43349.2. An unidentified distress signal has led to the Discovery of a crashed Romulan vessel on the surface of Galorndon Core, a Federation planet. We have recovered one survivor, but Lieutenant Commander La Forge did not report back with the away team and is still missing.

Bek was a pawn, an intermediary. He killed himself to prevent the Discovery of the real traitor.

I understand the chance for scientific Discovery, Captain

It would not have made any difference. If I had not discovered the Cascade, it would have been someone else, don't you see? It was a scientific inevitability, one Discovery flowing naturally to the next. Something so enormous as science will not stop for something as small as man, Mister Neelix.

When I was a respected philosopher, I celebrated the continuity, the undeviation of Q life. I argued that our civilisation had achieved a purity that no other culture had ever approached. And it was wonderful, for a while. At the beginning of the New Era, life as a Q was a continuous dialogue of Discovery and issues and humour from all over the universe. But look at them now. Listen to their dialogue now.

No, not a fossil. A witness. A living witness to history. There's so much we don't know about what happened. But you saw it, you lived through those times. You helped to shape them. Doctor, you could be the most important Discovery of all time

I didn't have the resources to try traditional methods, so I experimented with procedures that, that never would have occurred to me under ordinary circumstances. The Discovery of the cure was almost accidental, really.

Considering everyone's recent behaviour, that's not surprising. Since the Discovery of this wormhole the crew has ignored obvious signs that it's a deception. You must determine if there is a physiological explanation.

There are some species that rely solely on genetic sequencing to pass on their cultural memories. Evidently, humans have a similar capacity. This could be an important Discovery. He certainly possesses Commander Tucker's curiosity. This morning he took apart my medical tricorder.

 

[1001001]

From what I could find, "Discovery" (not "discoveries") has been used in 50 Star Trek episodes (and one movie) across the six previous series:

Details from the USS Discovery, on Voyager's databanks, was downloaded by Rain Robinson in 1996. Thankfully, the crew prevented her from creating it 200 years ahead of schedule:


The USS Discovery was actually created by the Vulcans prior to 2151:


T'Pol talked about the ship's significance:


In fact, even T'Pau was a fan of the USS Discovery:


Well after the untold voyages of the 2250s, the Discovery was still performing heroic actions in Kirk's time, such as saving Doctor Korby's group:



Being notified, as we all know:


Of course, it wasn't all sunshine and roses:


The Dramia were confused about what ship McCoy was currently assigned (was he on the Discovery in 2251?):


Sybok, of course, was also searching for the legendary ship in 2287 (in addition to all the other nonsense going on):


The Discovery was still in service in 2351, where it was detected by Harry Kim. They ended up contacting the Romulans instead:


The legendary Discovery was even commended by the evil Lore, of all people:


It appears the Barzans were in command of the famous Discovery during the 2360s:


But Starfleet gained it back again, soon after:


Was it actually a refit or a successor ship? Picard seems to have been in charge of construction on the Discovery:


The Discovery, whether it was owned by the Barzans or back in Starfleet hands, appeared to be stationed on Earth:


Not just Picard, but Professor Galen also took part in (re)construction of the Discovery. Was it refitted for archaeological digs?


The Discovery appears to have been instrumental in ending the Cardassian Occupation and maintaining peace for Bajor:


Even the Grand Nagus of Ferenginar praised the famed hero ship:


But it appears that Cardassia had an information embargo on the Discovery (didn't want to inspire the populace, I assume). Also, Rugal spoke highly of the Discovery:


The Discovery was faster than Sisko's Bajoran solar ship. Which makes sense, and I feel the race was unfair:


The Discovery's involvement in Bajor is name-checked by a crazed Sisko:


The Voyager sometimes checked their logs with that of the Discovery's earlier observations. Did the Discovery once travel through the Delta Quadrant?:


Torres, in a bout of hallucinogenic hysteria, once believed that she was in command of the USS Discovery:


What does murder have to do with the Discovery? That was an out-of-the-blue assumption. Unless the Discovery had left Barzan/Earth space for the Delta Quadrant prior to Voyager's arrival:


In fact, it most certainly did. The Voth found the Discovery, apparently, adrift in space:


The Voth apparently were forced to give the ship to some mad scientists bent on destroying the universe:


Arturis thought that the Discovery should be inspiring Voyager everyday. And it should:


Dax wanted to be involved in the Discovery's next refit:


And apparently the Doctor is now claiming to have created the Discovery (and insulting it, too). You were a hologram activated on Voyager. There's no way you created the ship!:


Neelix, however, knew of the rumors of the Discovery, and eventually made his way to thanking Starfleet members for having created such a magnificant ship:


Oh, come on! Seven definitely could not have constructed the Discovery (unless the Relativity was involved):


The Voyager crew, finally caught on that the Discovery was nearby, and of course, expected (or not) to be saved by them on a regular basis. Seven was also less-than-impressed by the Discovery, unlike the excitable Chakotay:


But Janeway otherwise kept the Discovery a secret from her crew. A fact questioned by Tuvok (read up on history, Tuvok - it was actually the Vulcans who created Discovery):


And now Doctor Zimmerman is claiming to have made the Discovery. Perhaps he made the holodeck that was installed on it:


And, of course, pre-warp civilizations in the far reaches of the Delta Quadrant knew exactly what the Discovery was, and was expecting it to show up from time-to-time:


All other references, which I don't quite understand in context:

 

[Tim Thomason]

I'm being sarcastic. Not every reference to a "Discovery" is, or should be interpreted as, a retconned reference to the USS Discovery.

 

[Dukhat]

From what I could find, "Discovery" (not "discoveries") has been used in 50 Star Trek episodes (and one movie) across the six previous series:

Details from the USS Discovery, on Voyager's databanks, was downloaded by Rain Robinson in 1996. Thankfully, the crew prevented her from creating it 200 years ahead of schedule:


The USS Discovery was actually created by the Vulcans prior to 2151:


T'Pol talked about the ship's significance:


In fact, even T'Pau was a fan of the USS Discovery:


Well after the untold voyages of the 2250s, the Discovery was still performing heroic actions in Kirk's time, such as saving Doctor Korby's group:



Being notified, as we all know:


Of course, it wasn't all sunshine and roses:


The Dramia were confused about what ship McCoy was currently assigned (was he on the Discovery in 2251?):


Sybok, of course, was also searching for the legendary ship in 2287 (in addition to all the other nonsense going on):


The Discovery was still in service in 2351, where it was detected by Harry Kim. They ended up contacting the Romulans instead:


The legendary Discovery was even commended by the evil Lore, of all people:


It appears the Barzans were in command of the famous Discovery during the 2360s:


But Starfleet gained it back again, soon after:


Was it actually a refit or a successor ship? Picard seems to have been in charge of construction on the Discovery:


The Discovery, whether it was owned by the Barzans or back in Starfleet hands, appeared to be stationed on Earth:


Not just Picard, but Professor Galen also took part in (re)construction of the Discovery. Was it refitted for archaeological digs?


The Discovery appears to have been instrumental in ending the Cardassian Occupation and maintaining peace for Bajor:


Even the Grand Nagus of Ferenginar praised the famed hero ship:


But it appears that Cardassia had an information embargo on the Discovery (didn't want to inspire the populace, I assume). Also, Rugal spoke highly of the Discovery:


The Discovery was faster than Sisko's Bajoran solar ship. Which makes sense, and I feel the race was unfair:


The Discovery's involvement in Bajor is name-checked by a crazed Sisko:


The Voyager sometimes checked their logs with that of the Discovery's earlier observations. Did the Discovery once travel through the Delta Quadrant?:


Torres, in a bout of hallucinogenic hysteria, once believed that she was in command of the USS Discovery:


What does murder have to do with the Discovery? That was an out-of-the-blue assumption. Unless the Discovery had left Barzan/Earth space for the Delta Quadrant prior to Voyager's arrival:


In fact, it most certainly did. The Voth found the Discovery, apparently, adrift in space:


The Voth apparently were forced to give the ship to some mad scientists bent on destroying the universe:


Arturis thought that the Discovery should be inspiring Voyager everyday. And it should:


Dax wanted to be involved in the Discovery's next refit:


And apparently the Doctor is now claiming to have created the Discovery (and insulting it, too). You were a hologram activated on Voyager. There's no way you created the ship!:


Neelix, however, knew of the rumors of the Discovery, and eventually made his way to thanking Starfleet members for having created such a magnificant ship:


Oh, come on! Seven definitely could not have constructed the Discovery (unless the Relativity was involved):


The Voyager crew, finally caught on that the Discovery was nearby, and of course, expected (or not) to be saved by them on a regular basis. Seven was also less-than-impressed by the Discovery, unlike the excitable Chakotay:


But Janeway otherwise kept the Discovery a secret from her crew. A fact questioned by Tuvok (read up on history, Tuvok - it was actually the Vulcans who created Discovery):


And now Doctor Zimmerman is claiming to have made the Discovery. Perhaps he made the holodeck that was installed on it:


And, of course, pre-warp civilizations in the far reaches of the Delta Quadrant knew exactly what the Discovery was, and was expecting it to show up from time-to-time:


All other references, which I don't quite understand in context:

This has my vote for the greatest TrekBBS post of all time.

 

[The Mighty Monkey of Mim]

It was just poor grammar usage, since there's no indication that the Enterprise was in communication with another ship at all. Kirk should have said, "Uhura, notify [Starfleet of] the discovery on subspace radio."

... or simply "Uhura, report the discovery on subspace radio."

Or "note the discovery" instead of notify.

Well, apparently both words can be used interchangeably.

"Note" http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/note and "notify". https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=notify

No, "note" and "notify" cannot be used interchangeably as verbs. The direct object of "notify" is who is being told. The direct object of "note" is what is being told.

@Laura Cynthia Chambers has it right. It is not poor grammar usage; it merely happens to be a less common usage in present-day American English than in British English. To "notify something" means to make it known, to give notice of it, advertise/announce/report it, to give information about it.

See definition #2:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/notify?s=t
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/notify
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/notify

 

[CorporalCaptain]

@Laura Cynthia Chambers has it right. It is not poor grammar usage; it merely happens to be a less common usage in present-day American English than in British English. To "notify something" means to make it known, to give notice of it, advertise/announce/report it, to give information about it.

See definition #2:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/notify?s=t
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/notify
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/notify

Yeah, OK, this dictionary identifies that usage as chiefly British (definition 1.1).

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/notify

It wasn't even in the dictionary that I usually consult. The author Paul Schneider was American. Fine. Apologies, @Laura Cynthia Chambers.

 

[The Mighty Monkey of Mim]

I think it's having fallen out of more common usage in American English may post-date the writing of the episode, as evidenced by the American writer's use of it therein. The oldest dictionary I have on hand at my house is a copy of Merriam Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary from 1985, and it makes no mention of this usage being "chiefly British," for example. And this would of course have been two decades earlier. Language is always constantly shifting. It's understandable that this usage might be unfamiliar to many today.

And, of course, it goes without saying that there's nothing to stop this from being retconned into a reference to the U.S.S. Discovery, if the writers of the new show elected to do so.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Well, I'm 50, American, fairly well-read, and I've never come across it outside the episode, as far as I can recall. That might be anecdotal evidence of it falling out of usage. Live and learn!

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Apologies, @Laura Cynthia Chambers.

To be fair, I didn't know that was the case either until I looked it up. Being more right than people who are older than me is a weird feeling.

@Tim Thomason I wasn't saying every reference to the word (or even every TOS reference) had to follow suit. It's just that this one is singularly unique in that it can be taken more than one way. I'd wager it would not be the first time somebody used an offhand remark such as this and went in a completely different direction than the originator intended. But I could totally see something like your post being a promo for the new series - you know how on DVDs, they choose and edit clips of the show to make it sound as though the characters are promoting the show?

Example:
Announcer: It's coming to DVD!
Character: Well, it's about time!
Character 2: We've waited long enough.
etc...

 

[Marsden]

What could be a tie in is The Discovery, or another ship in it's class, is in the space dock barely visible when they are showing Excelsior in ST III.

Full disclosure, I've never noticed it on viewing, but I've seen screen shots on the BBS.

 

[Search4]

This has my vote for the greatest TrekBBS post of all time.

Abs-sol-Utely. A real LOL post.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Abs-sol-Utely. A real LOL post.

Just for the time and effort that gets the win...

 

[scotpens]

@Laura Cynthia Chambers has it right. It is not poor grammar usage; it merely happens to be a less common usage in present-day American English than in British English. To "notify something" means to make it known, to give notice of it, advertise/announce/report it, to give information about it.

Well, I'm 50, American, fairly well-read, and I've never come across it outside the episode, as far as I can recall. That might be anecdotal evidence of it falling out of usage. Live and learn!

I'm 12 years older than you and I have never heard "notify" used in that sense. I always assumed it was just sloppy writing, or Shatner misspeaking the line.

 

[starmike]

 

[johnnybear]

But there is no Discovery in the TOS universe!!!
JB

 

[Maurice]

In virtually every draft of the script, including a page revision to the final draft dated 10/28/66, the line is:

KIRK​

... Uhura, report the discovery on sub-space radio--​

Perhaps Shatner just botched it.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Nice little bit of stretching to tie-in to the new show, but I have a sneaking suspicion the USS Discovery won't be around in the TOS timeframe.

 

[starmike]

I'm sure he botched it, but CBS put "Discovery" in italics.