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USA distribution -CBS All Access discussion

Anyone had issues where the commercial breaks cause the stream to screw up? Happened to me more than once. It's gonna kill it for me if it keeps up.

I had it happen after one break during episode 2 where my PS4 started asking me to make sure it was connnected to the internet (it was). I assume it was just likely load for the premier.
 
https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/25/star-trek-discovery-shouldnt-be-streaming-only/
http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/a-lot-of-star-trek-fans-are-mad-about-having-to-pay-for-cbs-all-access

Came across a good article about Discovery and CBS’s questionable decision to present this program on such a limited platform.

Doesn’t this platform at best limit Discovery to being a niche program and at worst make it a show a show that is dead on arrival due to many people either refusing to pay for it or simply not having access to it?

If CBS didn’t want to put Discovery on broadcast tv, why not put in on Netflix in the United States where it could be seen by Netflix’s 103.9 million (51.9 million of those subscribers are in the United states) subscribers as opposed to CBS all access that has roughly 4 million subscribers? Nobody is going to watch this program given such a limited method of delivery. Even if all 4 million subscribers watched it (which will never happen) it is a fraction of what could be seen in the United States by Netflix subscribers.

Doesn’t seem like a great business decision to me to intentionally limit Star Trek’s audience (and piss off it’s loyal fanbase) and their most important brand in order to push a streaming service that has such limitations.

"Ultimately, CBS is shortchanging Discovery, a show with potential that is so much greater than what it's currently allowing"
 
Doesn’t seem like a great business decision to me to intentionally limit Star Trek’s audience (and piss off it’s loyal fanbase) and their most important brand in order to push a streaming service that has such limitations.

How many times does this really need repeated? CBS is trying to grow their own streaming platform. :brickwall:
 
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Where do you want CBS to put it?

Do you think it can pull in the numbers of NCIS, Survivor, Big Bang? CBS can turn out a bland procedural, a generic sitcom or a reality show for much much less and bring in more viewers. They axed Supergirl which was bringing in 8 million viewers an episode.

Star Trek doesn't make financial sense for a broadcast network. It makes sense for something people have to pay for, The way people pay for HBO for GoT or Westworld, or even how people pay for Starz to get Outlander.
 
Yep. Supergirl had a budget of $3 million per episode, with 8 million viewers. It was axed and shuffled to The CW due to low performance. Meanwhile, Discovery's budget is three times the budget Supergirl's first season had. It wouldn't survive on network television these days. Sorry. Just the way it is now.
 
I want to see if CBS All Access is a success, or if "Star Trek: Discovery" winds up airing in full on CBS next summer.
an interesting thought but highly doubtful to keep the IP on CBSAA.
also
The basic subscription to CBS All Access costs $5.99 a month and comes with one week free. For that price, you have to endure commercials -- some Twitter users Sunday were reporting as many as 10 ads in one break.
I didn't know it was so many.
http://www.dailyherald.com/entlife/...tar-trek-tainted-by-cbs-app-happy-sales-pitch


CBS Badly Misplayed Their Hand By Making 'Star Trek: Discovery' A Paid Streaming Exclusive
https://www.forbes.com/sites/insert...very-a-paid-streaming-exclusive/#27a665851318
 
I ended up signing up for the no commercials part and even though STD isn't looking all that entertaining so far, I'm enjoying the CBS All Access app because it has live tv, a variety of news shows - it's been so many years for me, since I got rid of tv ten years ago... It also has a few old shows that I don't mind watching, such as Family Ties, for instance.

So even though I might quit watching STD, I might still keep the app, the more the merrier.
 
I have a few questions? What is to stop people from always just doing free trial after free trial and never paying a dime for CBS-All Access? Also how do you make money when you know people will pirate it because they simply don't want to pay for yet another steaming service after already paying for several others, not to mention those who will do it just because? Also when ever network it seems has it's own streaming service why do they feel they will be able to compete with all the others with just one show that people will want to pay for? If they couldn't afford "Supergirl" and they have "Netflix" paying the bills on "Discovery" how are they ever going to build a slew of shows that compete with the other services. Do they think Netflix is going to be like a bank whenever they want to create a new big budget high profile show?

Jason
 
I have a few questions? What is to stop people from always just doing free trial after free trial and never paying a dime for CBS-All Access?

I don't know, but I'm guessing that they can keep track of server info and other registration info.

Also how do you make money when you know people will pirate it because they simply don't want to pay for yet another steaming service after already paying for several others, not to mention those who will do it just because?

That's always an issue, however not everyone is without morals.

Also when ever network it seems has it's own streaming service why do they feel they will be able to compete with all the others with just one show that people will want to pay for? If they couldn't afford "Supergirl" and they have "Netflix" paying the bills on "Discovery" how are they ever going to build a slew of shows that compete with the other services. Do they think Netflix is going to be like a bank whenever they want to create a new big budget high profile show?

We'll find out low long the new streaming bubble lasts, however with different services having exclusives, that will give them competitive edges.
 
CBS Badly Misplayed Their Hand By Making 'Star Trek: Discovery' A Paid Streaming Exclusive
https://www.forbes.com/sites/insert...very-a-paid-streaming-exclusive/#27a665851318
Good article - and very much conveyed many of the concerns about CBSAA I harbored since the first announcements came out. Fortunately, the streaming infrastructure seems to be holding fast against the tide of new subscriptions. I have yet to personally detect any kind of video compression degradation during streaming. I still don't like the "exclusive" nature of the broadcast, requiring me to buy yet another streaming service, but you go to war with the army you're given, so... :shrug:
 
It's CBS decision to put Star Trek Discovery on their All Access website. And it will be their decision when they decide to sale already produce episodes to other television, cable and webnetworks Of course you have wait until they make that decision. It could be 3, 4, 5, 10 years or more for it to happen.
Lexx, Babylon 5, Andromeda, Star Trek Enterprise, Star Trek Deep Space Nine, Friday The 13 the series, Out of the World and other television and cable series haven't air for some time or since they went off the air.
 
Does CBS All Access have 5.1 surround sound?

It doesn't appear so. That's pretty disappointing. They talked about making this show "cinematic." Surround audio is part of the cinema experience.
 
The 3rd Original series will debut on CBSAA in November.
The series, “No Activity,” will premiere Nov. 12 — timed to coincide with the conclusion of chapter one of “Star Trek: Discovery.”
New episodes will be released weekly on Sundays
The series stars co-creator Patrick Brammall and Tim Meadows along with guest stars Mark Berry, Arturo Castro, Mackenzie Davis, Bridget Everett, Will Ferrell, Jake Johnson, Jesse Plemons, Amy Sedaris and others.
http://www.tvweek.com/tvbizwire/201...comedy-series-to-run-only-on-digital-service/

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/ne...-debut-will-ferrell-comedy-no-activity/169122

As predicted to stop subscriber churn. back to back series premiere with ending of one show. (DSC hiatus)
 
Netflix just announced another price increase to $14 per month before tax, starting next month. In Pennsylvania, that would bring it to $15.12 per month. That's after losing NBC's and FOX's television programming, and they're soon to lose Disney. Meanwhile, commercial-free CBS All Access is $10, with no tax in Pennsylvania. Considering Netflix's original programming is mostly crap, I'm actually glad that Discovery is on CBS All Access. Saves me over $5 per month.
 
I have a few questions? What is to stop people from always just doing free trial after free trial and never paying a dime for CBS-All Access? ...

You have to fill in your name and address, and a credit card under your name. Maybe they track it per household or something. These companies definitely have ways of spotting duplicates.

Kor
 
Netflix just announced another price increase to $14 per month before tax, starting next month. In Pennsylvania, that would bring it to $15.12 per month. That's after losing NBC's and FOX's television programming, and they're soon to lose Disney. Meanwhile, commercial-free CBS All Access is $10, with no tax in Pennsylvania. Considering Netflix's original programming is mostly crap, I'm actually glad that Discovery is on CBS All Access. Saves me over $5 per month.
They're probably losing market share to Amazon Prime, Hulu and some of the other streaming services that are popping up out there. Instead of becoming more competitive in the services it offers, it is resorting to the tried-and-true easy way out by boosting fees without boosting service. This business model is always short-term gain only. Eventually, people leave if they're getting squeezed too much, and the streaming business has quite a bit of competition out there these days. There's really no incentive to stay if they get too greedy.

Morons.
 
They're probably losing market share to Amazon Prime, Hulu and some of the other streaming services that are popping up out there. Instead of becoming more competitive in the services it offers, it is resorting to the tried-and-true easy way out by boosting fees without boosting service. This business model is always short-term gain only. Eventually, people leave if they're getting squeezed too much, and the streaming business has quite a bit of competition out there these days. There's really no incentive to stay if they get too greedy.

Morons.
I, for one, am saying good-bye to Netflix pretty shortly here. :thumbdown:

Kor
 
Yep. Case in point...

They'll start hemorrhaging customers, lose revenue even more and the fuckwit suits in charge will continue to scratch their collective heads, muttering "whahappen'd?" as their lawyers begin filing for Chapter 11 protection.
 
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