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The earlier I would expect it would be right before season 2 starts.

That does sound like an okay marketing plan if they wanted a home video release: "Season 2 is coming! Get the first season on BluRay to refresh your memory and experience new features to hype you for the continuation!"
 
Just as a reference point, Daredevil Season 2 just came out on home video Tuesday, and it was first released on Netflix on March 18 2016. So that's almost a year and a half between the streaming release and the home release. If CBSAA follows a similar pattern then I think the big question will be if the time between the two releases starts after the first episode airs or after the last one is posted to CBSAA. Then there's the question of whether they will release the two halves at the same time, or if they do separate Season 1 and Season 1.5 releases.
I just really can't see CBS rushing to release this in other formats when the whole point of show is the get people to sign up for CBSAA. They're going to wait as long as they possibly can before they release it in other formats, if they ever do.
 
Has anyone heard the time that episodes would be released. For example, 8:30 east coast time is 5:30 west coast time. So does that mean the episodes will be on all access at 6:30 west coast time? Also what about subsequent weeks? Is this a Sunday morning, afternoon or evening release date.
 
Just as a reference point, Daredevil Season 2 just came out on home video Tuesday, and it was first released on Netflix on March 18 2016. So that's almost a year and a half between the streaming release and the home release. If CBSAA follows a similar pattern then I think the big question will be if the time between the two releases starts after the first episode airs or after the last one is posted to CBSAA. Then there's the question of whether they will release the two halves at the same time, or if they do separate Season 1 and Season 1.5 releases.
I just really can't see CBS rushing to release this in other formats when the whole point of show is the get people to sign up for CBSAA. They're going to wait as long as they possibly can before they release it in other formats, if they ever do.

On the other hand, I think Trek fans buy a lot of merchandise, so I seriously doubt we'll ever see an official Trek production that doesn't get a home media release eventually.
 
We've also never gotten a Trek series that was purely a marketing ploy to get gullible and desperate Trek fans to sign up for another streaming service.

If the whole point of the show is to get as many people as possible to sign up CBSAA, it would be pretty stupid of them to go and release it on home video right away. OK, I will admit that they probably will release it eventually, but it'll probably a very, very long time after it airs.

Has anyone heard the time that episodes would be released. For example, 8:30 east coast time is 5:30 west coast time. So does that mean the episodes will be on all access at 6:30 west coast time? Also what about subsequent weeks? Is this a Sunday morning, afternoon or evening release date.
It's starting on the half hour?
As for your question, most of the time they don't add the episodes to the streaming services until the morning after they air.
 
Most of that is true, except the last part. Contract roulette (or maybe Musical Chairs) between all the providers forms a fractured market where you still have to worry about whether what you want to watch is currently available on any particular service such as Netflix. That's why there is this growing issue about the cost of multiple streaming providers ironically adding up to the costs that cable customers are trying to leave behind.

This is also why certain bloggers are concerned about DVD and Blu-Ray dying as well, because they believe that both are better than streaming services, especially where the quality of video is concerned, and that we also also losing out on older movies and TV shows no longer being offered on video.
 
We've also never gotten a Trek series that was purely a marketing ploy to get gullible and desperate Trek fans to sign up for another streaming service.

It's starting on the half hour?
As for your question, most of the time they don't add the episodes to the streaming services until the morning after they air.

I read that the pilot was going to be on at 8:30 PM Sunday the 24th. Also, when the episodes are going to be on exclusively a streaming service, than there is no "After it airs". I know Netflix puts it on early in the morning (Sometimes even midnight the day it gets released).
 
Streaming shows have a long turnaround before they make it to home media, that's if they ever make it at all.
Indeed. When you rely on subscribers for your business, providing the content in a different form can only hurt you in the majority of cases, because there's no need to stay subscribed for rewatching.
 
Ok here it IS! My review of All Access using the various trailers. I took the plunge and got the $10 no commercials option because my wife would not hear of commercials. :lol:

So the first look trailer was the first I tried. It is indeed 2.1 pcm audio, with 1080p video and a slightly smaller than full screen aspect ratio. The system used is a 65" 4k LG TV and a 6.1, 1000 watt Samsung audio/Blu-ray system, streamed with a 150mbps speed on a dual band modem.

It DOES, in fact, look better than the supposed 1080p or 720p trailers on youtube by a decent margin. It is still noticeably compressed compared to most cable HD and about the same as Netflix. The improvement over youtube does make me happy.

The 2.1 audio plays on my subwoofer and 2 fronts. I played it at "normal" levels and high levels (18 and 25 on my audio settings). It is NOT surround sound but is very clear and sounded loud on 25, I would never play it that high, and it filled the room. So this will certainly do till they upgrade.

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3 weeks guys. It's going to be big.


RAMA
 
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All Access using the various trailers
So the first look trailer was the first I tried. It is indeed 2.1 pcm audio,

The 2.1 audio plays on my subwoofer and 2 fronts. I played it at "normal" levels and high levels (18 and 25 on my audio settings).
RAMA can you clarify? I have never heard of 2.1 PCM. I have read that CBSAA is stereo / 2.0 audio. [most likely Dolby Digital 2.0 or AAC 2.0 not uncompressed LPCM 2.0 channels]
Do you physically have a subwoofer icon lighting up for you on a receiver?
Most likely you have selected small speakers on your receiver and anything under a frequency threshold is sent to your subwoofer processed by your receiver. Not anything that was mixed/mastered by CBS Television Studios. We all know a new show is either mixed in 7.1 or 5.1 surround sound and everything else is automixed down to stereo 2.0 [LtRt]
For Trek since all of the Blu-ray releases of TV series (except ENT) has been remixed to 7.1 surround I would figure they are mixing it from the start in 7.1 surround sound. We'll see if they decided to mix it in Dolby Atmos 7.1.4 for futureproofing.
this commenter mentions what he found on CBSAA:
demuxed the audio stream, to discover that CBS is downmixing the 6ch audio to 2ch audio & they are converting the original dolby digital AC3@384kps to Apple AAC 2 ch@96kps.
 
Hi JT, So I was surprised to hear anything coming out of the subwoofer after hearing CBSAA was stereo 2.0, and I assumed it had 2.1 sound, and as it turns out, your observation is exactly what happened. Basically, the receiver processor took over and downmixed the low frequencies to the subwoofer.:techman:

RAMA

RAMA can you clarify? I have never heard of 2.1 PCM. I have read that CBSAA is stereo / 2.0 audio. [most likely Dolby Digital 2.0 or AAC 2.0 not uncompressed LPCM 2.0 channels]
Do you physically have a subwoofer icon lighting up for you on a receiver?
Most likely you have selected small speakers on your receiver and anything under a frequency threshold is sent to your subwoofer processed by your receiver. Not anything that was mixed/mastered by CBS Television Studios. We all know a new show is either mixed in 7.1 or 5.1 surround sound and everything else is automixed down to stereo 2.0 [LtRt]
For Trek since all of the Blu-ray releases of TV series (except ENT) has been remixed to 7.1 surround I would figure they are mixing it from the start in 7.1 surround sound. We'll see if they decided to mix it in Dolby Atmos 7.1.4 for futureproofing.
this commenter mentions what he found on CBSAA:
 
Hope to see a UHD BD release at some point.

Westworld's the only show on that format as of yet.
I know I'm double-dipping, but when the UHD or bluray comes out, I'll snap it up..hopefully with a discount. I'll just have to have the most recent, technically up to date Trek series on the shelf.

RAMA
 
Hope to see a UHD BD release at some point.

Westworld's the only show on that format as of yet.
Yes but Westworld only had a 2k DI finish. It is an upconvert.
The pilot and series were finished at 2K, with the visual effects done at 3K. Then about a month ago, we did an HDR transfer of the whole project for home video. There were issues with grain on the HDR; it is very quirky in how it picks up grain in some scenes and not others. We did tests with 4K scans and found that grain issue was actually more objectionable than with the 2K scans.
http://www.studiodaily.com/2017/08/cinematographer-paul-cameron-asc-shooting-westworlds-pilot-film/

I would think Star Trek is planning on futureproofing by finishing at UHD 4k.
Yes that is also a way CBS Home Video can double dip. A blu-ray release and maybe a year later a 4k UHD Blu-ray release.
 
Yes but Westworld only had a 2k DI finish. It is an upconvert.

http://www.studiodaily.com/2017/08/cinematographer-paul-cameron-asc-shooting-westworlds-pilot-film/

I would think Star Trek is planning on futureproofing by finishing at UHD 4k.
Yes that is also a way CBS Home Video can double dip. A blu-ray release and maybe a year later a 4k UHD Blu-ray release.
So? 2K upscales make up some of the best releases on UHD BD.

HDR's a far bigger upgrade than the tiny leap you see going from 2K to 4K in the home. Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2 and John Wick 2 are great examples of that.
 
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