But back on point: on this issue FJ deliberately ignored a well established fact of the ship as seen onscreen. I'm not giving him a pass on this one.
I agree.
There was never any indication that a back-up bridge exists beyond Auxiliary Control.
But back on point: on this issue FJ deliberately ignored a well established fact of the ship as seen onscreen. I'm not giving him a pass on this one.
But back on point: on this issue FJ deliberately ignored a well established fact of the ship as seen onscreen. I'm not giving him a pass on this one.
Yeah, that would be one helluva project.Of course, for those who want a whole new tech manual starting from scratch, none of the above matters?
At this point, we’ll probably never know for sure whether FJ knew of its existence [Auxiliary Control Room] or not?
But back on point: on this issue FJ deliberately ignored a well established fact of the ship as seen onscreen. I'm not giving him a pass on this one.
In assuming he deliberately ignored the Auxilary Control Room, you presuppose that FJ had seen and noticed it in the first place.
After having read the interviews again at www.trekplace.com (which is an excercise I can't repeat recommending) there is no substantial hint he was aware of these and other interior compartments not featured in the studio set blueprint of The Making of Star Trek or in the film stills accessible to him.
You can read in these interviews how uncomfortable he was going to Star Trek Conventions and how he emphasized that his work should not be considered to be a bible of some kind (someone should forward these interviews to James Dixon and friends).
It shouldn't take a lot of imagination that during those conventions he meet Trekkers that did ask him those hard questions like "Where's the Auxilary Control Room". What was he supposed to say?
"Sorry, I based my work entirely on the information I got from The Making of Star Trek, a couple of film stills and an occasional item here and there I noticed while watching the reruns with my daughter"?
Fans looked up to him like a guru, almost a Carlos Castaneda thing, and he didn't have the heart to tell them that he was not the kind of Star Trek expert fans assumed him to be. IMHO, he made that clear in the interviews. Apparently he enjoyed his status as a guru because it enabled him to promote his ideas of space exploration and political participation.
I can't, won't and don't blame him for that.
Therefore, I believe that by emancipating ourselves from his work and using our own knowledge to come up with a different kind of technical manual would rather be something he would have approved and encouraged. Didn't somebody mention IDIC in the course of this thread?
Bob
At this point, we’ll probably never know for sure whether FJ knew of its existence [Auxiliary Control Room] or not?
What's the point in knowing? Either he didn't know of its existence or he decided to ignore it.
There was an acknowledgement during the 1970s of the production's shortcomings - that sets were made to fit exteriors they couldn't fit within, or that sets were constantly being redressed to fulfill multiple purposes, etc - and rather than take that literally and feel bound to make a square fit within a circle, Franz Joseph took it as license to show us unseen spaces that were what he believed had actually been intended.
How we can sit in our lofty, internet-informed perch and castigate a figure with such contemporary and personal access for daring to portray unseen intent instead of only what had been seen on TV is, in my view, assuming too much.
I'm not exactly sure what other resources he should have used to do higher fidelity work.
I'm not exactly sure what other resources he should have used to do higher fidelity work.
Watch the daily reruns on TV and note some observations perhaps?
Bob
I'm not exactly sure what other resources he should have used to do higher fidelity work.
Watch the daily reruns on TV and note some observations perhaps?
Bob
Yeah, that would be one helluva project.Of course, for those who want a whole new tech manual starting from scratch, none of the above matters?![]()
According to the "unseen intent" available through The Making of Star Trek there were only 12 ships like the Enterprise and he ignored this by coming up with several dozens more.
Actually over the years I have thought about it. Thing is, though, it would probably never get published. The market for these books is quite small now and the fact that it doesn't really gel with what is considered "official" would probably get in the way too.Yeah, that would be one helluva project.Of course, for those who want a whole new tech manual starting from scratch, none of the above matters?![]()
You're thinkin' about doing just that.
I can tell.![]()
Apparently, he didn't care to check or notice.
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