Up close photos of the Picard Museum props

[Christopher]

This was not the case with this ship. It would have been one thing if the base shape had been retained, and the details altered to fit the era, but that's not what happened.

Oh, good grief. We're talking about an illustration on a fake certificate in a fake museum display that's just to promote the show. It's not like it's an actual hero ship. It's an incidental detail in something that isn't even onscreen. I'm done wasting my energy arguing over something this stupidly unimportant.

 

[Longinus]

A bit strange attitude for someone who has made a career of writing stories about fake people on fake starships, but OK.

 

[Tuskin38]

And yet in all those examples you mention, the base concept was drastically altered to fit in the new context. This was not the case with this ship. It would have been one thing if the base shape had been retained, and the details altered to fit the era, but that's not what happened.

You're assuming Eaves submitted it to be used specifically on that certificate, I find that unlikely. He most likely resubmitted it to be used in the modern period of show, and the artist who made the certificate probably just grabbed that art without thinking or knowing it wasn't appropriate for the era.

 

[Tuskin38]

But no indication about when this was or in which capacity either of them served on that ship?

I haven't seen the extended episode in question, so I don't know.

Memory-Alpha says it was active in the 2320s like the Picard Museum does. So the episode probably gave some sort of indication of when it was.

Some of the Info/art at the Museum also came from John Goodman's Picard Autobiography, this may have as well.

 

[Longinus]

You're assuming Eaves submitted it to be used specifically on that certificate, I find that unlikely. He most likely submitted it to be used in the modern period of show, and the artist who made the certificate just grabbed that art without thinking/knowing it wasn't appropriate for the era.

Yes, that certainly is possible, even likely. And in that case it was that person's mistake.

And yes, I know that it is just a background prop, but these props are the sole topic of this thread.

 

[The Librarian]

The whole idea of a "lightspeed club" strikes me as ridiculous. Surely in Trek's world, warp speed is as commonplace as taking a car journey? JLP gets an award for "flying level" at warp speed in a Federation starship?

interstellar travel has usually been treated more like getting on a ship, or at least an airplane, not something most people do everyday. The Navy and sailors in general still make note of crossing the equator for the first time even though people do it all that time. It's just part of traditions meant to develop service culture. The lightspeed club probably originated early on when warp was much more rare and stuck around because it's what Starfleet has always done and a nice way to note your first step into the fleet.

 

[DaveyNY]

Obviously, Artists come in a variety of molds, from a multitude of backgrounds and have different ways of going about elucidating their Art.

Seems to me that this conversation is like trying to describe an elephant to a blind man...
Depending on which part he happens to be touching.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I'm not sure it counts as a mistake. Especially in a post-Disco world, Trek ship design is whatever they want for whatever era they want. Eaves probably submitted a ton of old sketches and a graphic designer probably dropped one at random into a certificate.

 

[137th Gebirg]

interstellar travel has usually been treated more like getting on a ship, or at least an airplane, not something most people do everyday. The Navy and sailors in general still make note of crossing the equator for the first time even though people do it all that time. It's just part of traditions meant to develop service culture. The lightspeed club probably originated early on when warp was much more rare and stuck around because it's what Starfleet has always done and a nice way to note your first step into the fleet.

Good point! The Navy also celebrates traversing the international dateline and other meridian lines in “Shellback Ceremonies”. As Starfleet is ostensibly a spiritual descendant of the US Navy, it makes sense that they would have similar onboard rituals for space-related first-timer “Pollywogs”.

 

[Tuskin38]

Especially in a post-Disco world, Trek ship design is whatever they want for whatever era they want.

It’s too early to say that. We haven’t seen any ships from Picard yet except for what I assume are Romulan ships, and a Borg Cube.

We haven’t seen the ships in lower decks either.

 

[Dukhat]

I'm done wasting my energy arguing over something this stupidly unimportant.

Good. Now people who do find it important can discuss it without being annoyingly put down by you.

 

[DaveyNY]

It’s too early to say that. We haven’t seen any ships from Picard yet except for what I assume are Romulan ships, and a Borg Cube.

We haven’t seen the ships in lower decks either.

We kinda sorta see the ship that Picard and his new "crew" fly into the Borg Cube in the trailer.
(though it's quite a ways away from the camera)

 

[Dukhat]

We kinda sorta see the ship that Picard and his new "crew" fly into the Borg Cube in the trailer.
(though it's quite a ways away from the camera)

You mean this?

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/star-trek-picard-4-1563654832.jpg

Not sure if any of those things are supposed to be Picard's ship.

 

[Timo]

There's another shot from within the Cube that might well feature the hero ship. Perhaps by comparing that one with this exterior shot, we could spot the ship that isn't one of 'em level-winged BoPs.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Tuskin38]

You mean this?

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/star-trek-picard-4-1563654832.jpg

Not sure if any of those things are supposed to be Picard's ship.

After the 7 of 9 scene there's a shot inside the cube with a ship far in the background flying straight to the left.

 

[Dukhat]

There's another shot from within the Cube that might well feature the hero ship. Perhaps by comparing that one with this exterior shot, we could spot the ship that isn't one of 'em level-winged BoPs.

After the 7 of 9 scene there's a shot inside the cube with a ship far in the background flying straight to the left.

Ah, ok, I see it now. It is definitely small, but it looks like a runabout or shuttle with nacelles underneath.

 

[Tuskin38]

Ah, ok, I see it now. It is definitely small, but it looks like a runabout or shuttle with nacelles underneath.

Yeah. I hope we get an official looks before the series airs. Maybe another trailer or something.

 

[publiusr]

The words that come up are: eleemosynary

I like that.

 

[DaveyNY]

Ah, ok, I see it now. It is definitely small, but it looks like a runabout or shuttle with nacelles underneath.

A Borg Cube is Massive, even the Enterprise-E looked minuscule next to one.

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I would imagine that the supposed Freighter that Picard & Crew are flying in would be at least a bit smaller than the E-E.

 

[Dukhat]

I would imagine that the supposed Freighter that Picard & Crew are flying in would be at least a bit smaller than the E-E.

I doubt a five-person ship would be that big.