Re: Unofficial art challenge for DS9! (SPOILERS FOR TP: RAISE THE DAW
it's clearly designed to appease hallmark.
it's clearly designed to appease hallmark.
Unofficial art challenge for DS9! (SPOILERS FOR TP: RAISE THE DAWN!)
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Re: Unofficial art challenge for DS9! (SPOILERS FOR TP: RAISE THE DAW
Sounds similar to some of the pre-production designs:
http://www.starshipdatalink.net/art/images/dds9-7.gif
Sounds similar to some of the pre-production designs:
http://www.starshipdatalink.net/art/images/dds9-7.gif
Re: Unofficial art challenge for DS9! (SPOILERS FOR TP: RAISE THE DAW
It's funny- at first, I read this and thought, meh- I never really liked the station design for DS9. And that's fine- it was supposed to be alien anyway.
But then I couldn't stop thinking about the description. I thought how the hell would this work... Now I need to make it after throwing down some sketches.
And what I'm thinking is a radical departure from the single axis levels for the sphere. I'm thinking each deck is like a layer of an onion, encompasing the whole of the sphere to the core.
The 6 arms leading the rings each have levels that rotate to orientate themselves to the axis of the give ring.
And each ring can accomodate 8 galaxy class ships on the outside parimeter, and smaller ships and on the inside.
The more I think of it, the more I believe this can make a damned cool looking station! I'm excited about it. And it's different! Can't wait to get home!
It's funny- at first, I read this and thought, meh- I never really liked the station design for DS9. And that's fine- it was supposed to be alien anyway.
But then I couldn't stop thinking about the description. I thought how the hell would this work... Now I need to make it after throwing down some sketches.
And what I'm thinking is a radical departure from the single axis levels for the sphere. I'm thinking each deck is like a layer of an onion, encompasing the whole of the sphere to the core.
The 6 arms leading the rings each have levels that rotate to orientate themselves to the axis of the give ring.
And each ring can accomodate 8 galaxy class ships on the outside parimeter, and smaller ships and on the inside.
The more I think of it, the more I believe this can make a damned cool looking station! I'm excited about it. And it's different! Can't wait to get home!
Re: Unofficial art challenge for DS9! (SPOILERS FOR TP: RAISE THE DAW
Okay- I've whipped something up. This is about 560 metres across. The ship is a placeholder from my builds- it's about 300 metres long. I think that I would double the size of this base to make it work.
I really like where this is going. Any thoughts about this? I guess it's a love it or hate it concept.
I guess since it's not my idea, it's just someone elses concept.
Okay- I've whipped something up. This is about 560 metres across. The ship is a placeholder from my builds- it's about 300 metres long. I think that I would double the size of this base to make it work.
I really like where this is going. Any thoughts about this? I guess it's a love it or hate it concept.
I guess since it's not my idea, it's just someone elses concept.
Re: Unofficial art challenge for DS9! (SPOILERS FOR TP: RAISE THE DAW
I'm probably leaning too heavily on the original DS9 with this, but here's what I've whipped up.
Essentially capping off the pylons with another ring at the top and the bottom, and replaced the middle with the aforementioned "sphere" and the habitat ring with a federation mushroom.
I see the red bulb below more as an impulse engine than a fusion reactor - in case she needs to move in Emergencies or some such (hey - there's a precedent for it at least
).
I'm probably leaning too heavily on the original DS9 with this, but here's what I've whipped up.
Essentially capping off the pylons with another ring at the top and the bottom, and replaced the middle with the aforementioned "sphere" and the habitat ring with a federation mushroom.
I see the red bulb below more as an impulse engine than a fusion reactor - in case she needs to move in Emergencies or some such (hey - there's a precedent for it at least
).
Re: Unofficial art challenge for DS9! (SPOILERS FOR TP: RAISE THE DAW
That's pretty small compared to the original station:
That's pretty small compared to the original station:
Re: Unofficial art challenge for DS9! (SPOILERS FOR TP: RAISE THE DAW
That actually looks way more practical than the designs based strictly on the description from the book. The only problem I have with it is the fact that the impulse engine looks pretty wimpy. It's practically begging a bad guy to shoot it offI'm probably leaning too heavily on the original DS9 with this, but here's what I've whipped up.
Essentially capping off the pylons with another ring at the top and the bottom, and replaced the middle with the aforementioned "sphere" and the habitat ring with a federation mushroom.
I see the red bulb below more as an impulse engine than a fusion reactor - in case she needs to move in Emergencies or some such (hey - there's a precedent for it at least
Re: Unofficial art challenge for DS9! (SPOILERS FOR TP: RAISE THE DAW
So my intent to double the size should work out well. Espcially given the volume of the sphere, we'll be looking at a HUGE base relative to DS9. The rings alone will be massive in volume.
I've always had issues with the scale of that station. But- scale is relative to the story line in a lot of Trek, both old and new, eh?
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I was thinking of putting some kind of communications arrays on the ends of each Ring but don't want to over do it. Maybe just the north/south points? And some control structures along hard docking points?
I also want to put some shuttle docking bays on the sphere, but don't want it to look like the death star.
The main thing is to keep it looking nothing like a Cardassian design. From what I'm gathering from the simple description I read, it's a Federation design.
So my intent to double the size should work out well. Espcially given the volume of the sphere, we'll be looking at a HUGE base relative to DS9. The rings alone will be massive in volume.
I've always had issues with the scale of that station. But- scale is relative to the story line in a lot of Trek, both old and new, eh?
________
I was thinking of putting some kind of communications arrays on the ends of each Ring but don't want to over do it. Maybe just the north/south points? And some control structures along hard docking points?
I also want to put some shuttle docking bays on the sphere, but don't want it to look like the death star.
The main thing is to keep it looking nothing like a Cardassian design. From what I'm gathering from the simple description I read, it's a Federation design.
Re: Unofficial art challenge for DS9! (SPOILERS FOR TP: RAISE THE DAW
ok, I decided to do a couple very rough sketches. I disregarded the description from the novel - it just didn't work for me. My idea uses a bit of the old Capitol Records building for inspiration of the central core with a classic ring. The large ring and central hub would be largely civilian/commercial, while the lower ring would be the Navy docks. The upper regions of the central core would be housing, administration and command at the top. You can see my USS Boundless docked at one of the VIP docking ports on the administration level. For scale, the Boundless is larger than an Excelsior but small than an Ambassador class.
ok, I decided to do a couple very rough sketches. I disregarded the description from the novel - it just didn't work for me. My idea uses a bit of the old Capitol Records building for inspiration of the central core with a classic ring. The large ring and central hub would be largely civilian/commercial, while the lower ring would be the Navy docks. The upper regions of the central core would be housing, administration and command at the top. You can see my USS Boundless docked at one of the VIP docking ports on the administration level. For scale, the Boundless is larger than an Excelsior but small than an Ambassador class.
Re: Unofficial art challenge for DS9! (SPOILERS FOR TP: RAISE THE DAW
Okay, I finally got some time to do a very rough take on my idea for the new station. Obviously this doesn't quite fit with the description from the book, but oh well...
Let's see who can be first to guess the significance of the shape.
Okay, I finally got some time to do a very rough take on my idea for the new station. Obviously this doesn't quite fit with the description from the book, but oh well...
Let's see who can be first to guess the significance of the shape.
Re: Unofficial art challenge for DS9! (SPOILERS FOR TP: RAISE THE DAW
Yeah, it's fairly obvious that it's the Bajoran symbol at first glance. The asymmetry is interesting, but I'm wondering if there's a connection between the station core and the bit of the ring behind the core in this pic.
Yeah, it's fairly obvious that it's the Bajoran symbol at first glance. The asymmetry is interesting, but I'm wondering if there's a connection between the station core and the bit of the ring behind the core in this pic.
Re: Unofficial art challenge for DS9! (SPOILERS FOR TP: RAISE THE DAW
Granted, it only has two docking pylons, but they're considerably bigger than the ones on DS9 and have multiple docking ports along their length instead of just one at the end. I figure this station can handle at least three large ships per pylon, plus six more along the outer ring and dozens of smaller ships at various other locations.
Granted, it only has two docking pylons, but they're considerably bigger than the ones on DS9 and have multiple docking ports along their length instead of just one at the end. I figure this station can handle at least three large ships per pylon, plus six more along the outer ring and dozens of smaller ships at various other locations.
Re: Unofficial art challenge for DS9! (SPOILERS FOR TP: RAISE THE DAW
It's awesome, and almost exactly what I'd been thinking myself. After all, it's still Bajoran space, Fed member or not -- and I'm sure they'd jump at the chance to overcome a stark reminder of the occupation by building something so clearly Bajoran in design.
It's awesome, and almost exactly what I'd been thinking myself. After all, it's still Bajoran space, Fed member or not -- and I'm sure they'd jump at the chance to overcome a stark reminder of the occupation by building something so clearly Bajoran in design.
Re: Unofficial art challenge for DS9! (SPOILERS FOR TP: RAISE THE DAW
Ah, okay. I guess I didn't examine it closely enough. I hope you keep working on it!
Ah, okay. I guess I didn't examine it closely enough. I hope you keep working on it!
Re: Unofficial art challenge for DS9! (SPOILERS FOR TP: RAISE THE DAW
I really like the design, but there is an unmistakable sense of motion to the asymmetry and it seems more like a ship than a station. I'm also not entirely sure the "docking ring" section matches with the shapes in the central hub.
I really like the design, but there is an unmistakable sense of motion to the asymmetry and it seems more like a ship than a station. I'm also not entirely sure the "docking ring" section matches with the shapes in the central hub.
Re: Unofficial art challenge for DS9! (SPOILERS FOR TP: RAISE THE DAW
I *really* like your concept, Vektor, but the architecture seems more Cardassian than Federation to me. Of course, since you said you're straying from the book description, I don't know if that was on purpose or not.
I *really* like your concept, Vektor, but the architecture seems more Cardassian than Federation to me. Of course, since you said you're straying from the book description, I don't know if that was on purpose or not.
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