United Earth
- Thread starter Jax
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You understand what I meant don't you? Every planet and species being politically united? Subverting that trope?Yep! Time to get out the clippers!
Politically united?!? I seem to recall a period of civil war, with Rebel spaceships striking from a hidden base against the evil Galactic Empire....
Messa plansa of how gungans and humans no getsa along.
Yes but the mon calamari, the kaminoans, the Gungans, just about every alien culture, Coruscant and so on are united under planetary governments.
No species is itself divided into nations
Are they?
The Mandalorians most certainly are divided, in the Rebels time frame.
The Mon Calamari and the Quarren are usually not united and live on the same planet.
The Mandalorians are split up between clans and houses by the time of Star Wars: Rebels, and do not seem to actually be part of the Galactic Empire, but a neutral region of space with different Clans sometimes allying with the Empire and others with the Rebels, while the majority attempt to stay out of it (so far).
The Humans are not united at all. They all have separate planetary government across the Galaxy. Some war on each other. I seem to recall a number of human worlds had a tendency for Civil War and factionalism. Also a lot of monarchy. The traditional Corellian System has five inhabited planets in it and they don't always get along with each other, much less the Galactic governments.
The Mandalorians are split up between clans and houses by the time of Star Wars: Rebels, and do not seem to actually be part of the Galactic Empire, but a neutral region of space with different Clans sometimes allying with the Empire and others with the Rebels, while the majority attempt to stay out of it (so far).
The Humans are not united at all. They all have separate planetary government across the Galaxy. Some war on each other. I seem to recall a number of human worlds had a tendency for Civil War and factionalism. Also a lot of monarchy. The traditional Corellian System has five inhabited planets in it and they don't always get along with each other, much less the Galactic governments.
IIRC, the old FASA rpg had the 23rd century Federation possessing approximately 1,500 members, and I don't recall anything about they all having single government planets.
I would prefer "hundreds upon hundreds of member nations
for each species."
I disagree, the reason sci fi doesn't have that is that it's complex and involved, and having entire species/planets with a single government is easier and simplistic.
The reason (as I understand it) that United Earth wasn't feature in a DS9 episode Paradise Lost was it was just easier to only show the Federation president sitting in a small office, and being the single decision maker for the entire Federation, or at least all of Earth.
The president comes off as more of a all powerful King, rather than a elected official in a vast democratic organization, with procedures and separations of powers.
Easier and simplistic.
It's the same reason we usually just hear about "the Federation council," but without going into just what the Federation council actually is.
The Federation goes to war and after a spell a majority of the member worlds decide that the Federation has proven whatever point needs to be made, and there need to be a return to peaceful conditions.
How would the Federation council and Starfleet command handle this?
How much power do the member world governments have to influence the Federation council?
How much authority does the Federation council have to basically ignore the member world governments wishes?
If the majority general population insisted on a course of action, who does Starfleet command listen too?
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