Unimatrix Zero and Transwarp

[LLAP]

At the end of Unimatrix Zero drones freed from the collective take control of several vessels, including a borg sphere.

I was wondering why Janeway did not take advantage of their allies transwarp capabilities to get themselves to earth. If they were prepared to help them in battle surely they wouln'd mind helping the crew of Voyager to get home?

Also they might be capable of ultilizing borg technology more efficiently once they got back to earth and could exploit the resources of the Federation.

 

[Tom]

I have said this too since the borg ships have more than one transwarp coil. Again its another example of how Janeway could have got voyager home if she really tried.

 

[TheGodBen]

Because there was another 25 episodes to go and nobody was really paying much attention anymore. We all stopped asking these questions after Voyager fired that 33rd torpedo.

 

[LLAP]

Heh obviously the show had to go on but couldn't they have come up with some kind of excuse? Has someone invented canonical reasons for this yet (people are pretty good at that I find )

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

The offspring asked me this question when we watched Unimatrix Zero. I had no answer. It was embarrassing, LOL.

Janeway really needed a desperate edge of wanting to get home.. sometimes it seemed she had forgotten about it in place of being an explorer instead. Heck maybe she had noticed a really cool quasar-thingy and didn't want to ask the Borg to help because she had to chart it first.

 

[Plecostomus]

Heh obviously the show had to go on but couldn't they have come up with some kind of excuse? Has someone invented canonical reasons for this yet (people are pretty good at that I find )

Ok the Borg have two kinds of Transwarp, the faster-than-fast FTL drive for pursuing targets and the Transwarp Conduit drive for getting between outposts and staging areas in a hurry.

Perhaps in order to work correctly they need a network connection to the Decentralized Central Borg Thingy for navigational references and up-to-the-second subspace chi correction factors and quantum weather reports. Without those the first drive *will* work for a time but it will burn out because it is not being tuned to the proper correction factors. The jump-drive will work for a period of time until the next set of access-codes are assigned, meaning eventually the ship would lose its ability to access the conduits.

The Decentralized Central Borg Thingy could have that mode of drive inoperative for the "rebel Borg" reset the code as soon as those ships broke away from the collective thus rendering that mode inoperative.



I AM TIRED... HEAR ME BABBLE!

 

[TheGodBen]

Heh obviously the show had to go on but couldn't they have come up with some kind of excuse? Has someone invented canonical reasons for this yet (people are pretty good at that I find )

Janeway could have made it home in False Profits or at least have sent a shuttle through the wormhole in order to inform Starfleet that they are still alive. She didn't.

Janeway could have demanded that the Borg bring them to the Alpha Quadrant in Scorpion in return for the experimental nano-probes. She didn't.

Janeway could have used the slipstream drive from Timeless to make short jumps back to the Alpha Quadrant making sure it only took them a few months to get home. She didn't.

Janeway could have asked Kes to send Voyager another 10,000 light-years at the end of Fury. She didn't.

Janeway could have demanded that Q send them home in Q2 in return for her help in bringing up Q's son. She didn't.

I think you will just have to accept that Janeway didn't really give a crap about getting back to Earth until she found out that Seven would die and Tuvok would go mad.

 

[USS Triumphant]

>Several good options for getting them home.<

Also, when Janeway and Paris turned into Transwarp Salamanders, the Doctor was able to turn them back easily enough. They could have put the crew in stasis (like they did in another episode), used the Transwarp to get home, and let the Doctor treat them in Earth orbit (since he wouldn't be affected anyway).

(As an aside, torpedo components can be replicated, and they did make some trades - they could have built more.)

 

[TheGodBen]

^^^ Lets just say that I don't exactly recognise Threshold as being an episode of Star Trek. I think that it is more akin to your TV running across the room, stabbing you in the stomach and spitting on you as you writhe on the floor in agony.

As for the torpedoes, they probably did just replicate them but in the early seasons they made a point about only having a limited supply. I don't remember them ever explaining that they managed to overcome this problem on-screen.

 

[LLAP]

Thinking about Timeless, how the hell did it manage to snow inside Voyager lol? Even in the Jeffries Tubes.

 

[propita]

Thinking about Timeless, how the hell did it manage to snow inside Voyager lol? Even in the Jeffries Tubes.

Condensation and freezing of the moisture in the air? Evidently the ship did not open to vacuum, at least not the entire ship.

 

[captainkirk]

>Several good options for getting them home.<

Also, when Janeway and Paris turned into Transwarp Salamanders, the Doctor was able to turn them back easily enough. They could have put the crew in stasis (like they did in another episode), used the Transwarp to get home, and let the Doctor treat them in Earth orbit (since he wouldn't be affected anyway).

Threshold never happened. It was a nightmare I had. Maybe Janeway forgot to ask the Borg to take them home. Or maybe they were concerned that Starfleet would pound the sphere out of existence if it appeared in orbit of Earth.
Happy new year (in 1 hour and 45 minutes anyway).

 

[Guy Gardener]

The only possible conversation which could have occurred off camera which fit the end of the episode...

"Please, can you tractor us home, it'll take a week at the most, and then you can come right back, or stop by Qo'noS to drag their tech rating up by 700 years, and then be back here to finish the fight in probably a month if..."

"No."

There's no way Janeway didn't ask, and there's no reason these people would say yes. it's not like she emancipated them or or saved them all from execution or...

Delivery boy or Borg slayer?

There's a Klingon in charge.

You figure it out.

 

[Tom]

You can almost track what weeks Brannon Braga was smoking the most amount of Crack by the episodes he wrote. For instance he must of had a MAJOR crack party right before he wrote Threshhold. I can see it now.. Michael DeLuca (the writer of Threshold) at the party wasted with Braga and the others.. 'I got this radical idea dude!', 'how about we break warp 10 and we turn Paris and Janeway into lizards!'. Braga: 'Thats awesome dude, I will get started on the teleplay, you tell me the whole story!' The other producers Wendy, Merri , Brad and Peter were also at the party and went with it. LOL