Generations never used new uniforms that were designed for the film. but you can see them here: http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-TREK-GENERATION...1QQcmdZViewItem
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^A few were actually manufactured, iirc. A picture of one completed uniform appeared in one of the pocket books on TNG or the TNG movies (can't remember which one). I wonder if those will turn up on the It's A Wrap ebay auctions.
I believe one of them did, actually.
Part of the reason the torture scene with Soran and Geordi was cut down was that Geordi is brought into the room wearing the rejected uniform.
Part of the reason the torture scene with Soran and Geordi was cut down was that Geordi is brought into the room wearing the rejected uniform.
They made uniforms for the entire command crew. They were completed, and set to be used with the show's two piece unis that were introduced in the third season for the backround officers and the jumpsuits for the extras...
But Rick Berman, the idiot, decided that having a new uniform introduced for the command crew, with the other two uniforms in the movie and the DSN jumper, would be too confusing for the audience. So they tossed out the new unis at the last second, after they spent most of the costume budget, and a few scenes had already been shot with them, and go with the DS9 jumper instead. This caused a handful of reshoots as well.
I heartily second Berman's decision here. The movie didn't go for a "difference" vis-á-vis the TV show look anywhere else, after all. Rather, it derived its appeal from the visual continuity. New uniforms would have been a grievous error, in trying to paint the movie and possible sequels as something separate when there never was and never would be enough substance in them to stand on their own.
Timo Saloniemi
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Well I liked that rejected design better than the DS9/VOY uniforms since they always looked too plain for me.
But liked the FC uniforms better than this rejected design.
But yea that's right if there ended up being at least 3 different uniforms in the film that would be bad, and I think this rejected design was going to be used on VOY.
But liked the FC uniforms better than this rejected design.
But yea that's right if there ended up being at least 3 different uniforms in the film that would be bad, and I think this rejected design was going to be used on VOY.
I think it's a shame that more costuming money wasn't scraped out of somewhere when the decision was made to scrap the new uniforms - The DS9 jumpsuits look a very poor fit on a lot of the cast - Riker in particular looks stupid in Brooks' command jumpsuit. Personally, I would have ditched the 'new costume' idea completely if they didn't have any more funds to make more than two (Stewart and Spiner got new jumpsuits as well as, you know, roles) and gone with just the TNG uniforms with the new combadges. That combination has actually always been one of my favourites - the rectangular backed comm badge is the perfect accessory for that particular uniform, imho.
some other views of those uniforms can be seen half-way down the page here:
http://www.st-spike.org/pages/uniforms/noncanon/uniforms.htm
http://www.st-spike.org/pages/uniforms/noncanon/uniforms.htm
Thing is, I'd argue that those new uniform redesigns were subtle enough that I imagine that most of the audience wouldn't realise that they were different to the regular TV show costumes...
I personally hate the way the uniforms were handled in most all of trek... Very few times did the production think out a system based on actual real world military and paramilitary systems. 
Besides, if those designs had been used as planned, then binned for the next film, that'd be consistent with what we know canonically Starfleet uniform policy, i.e., they usually don't last long.
I have to assume Bob Justman was involved. I sent him a design just like that in the late 80s. My thinking was to make the TNG uniforms more consistent with both the movies and TOS.
hutt359 said:
I personally hate the way the uniforms were handled in most all of trek... Very few times did the production think out a system based on actual real world military and paramilitary systems.
Although I disliked the series, I thought enterprise made the best stab at this - desert uniforms for deserts, pockets to carry things etc.
hutt359 said:
I personally hate the way the uniforms were handled in most all of trek... Very few times did the production think out a system based on actual real world military and paramilitary systems.
Yeah but Starfleet uniforms need not parallel Human uniform designs, that would be a tad ethnocentric - if Starfleet is a Federation organization, the uniforms could and should be, design-wise, incorporating stylistic elements across many different worlds.
Yeah, I never understood why TPTB bothered to even use the DS9 style uniforms in the movie since they didn't have the time or budget to create uniforms for the entire cast. Wouldn't it have been easier to just keep everyone in the TNG uniforms? They tailor-made new uniforms for Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner. They stuffed Jonathan Frakes into one of Avery Brooks' outfits and put LeVar Burton in one of Colm Meaney's. They couldn't find appropriately-fitting uniforms for the rest of the cast, which is why Worf, Beverly and Troi only wore their TNG uniforms.
JoeZhang said:
hutt359 said:
I personally hate the way the uniforms were handled in most all of trek... Very few times did the production think out a system based on actual real world military and paramilitary systems.
Although I disliked the series, I thought enterprise made the best stab at this - desert uniforms for deserts, pockets to carry things etc.
Agreed, the ENT uniforms were the most realistic/practical looking uniforms in a ST series to date. A duty uniform that could be out on quickly, and had places to carry stuff. A seperate dress uniform. Variant uniforms for different environments.
I liked the TWOK uniform (even though it probably wasn't as practical as the ENT one)
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