UK Prime Minister May calls for snap election.
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Didn't Chelsea win this year?
Technically yes, but totenham fans are acting like they did, while Chelsea are about to sack their manager
Not going to happen and if it does its a free vote, if MPs want to get back into Parliament they will vote it downThat DUP coallition is going to open so many cans that i don't think May will last 6 months, there is already talk that it cannot happen because it would be against the impartiality clause in the good Friday agreement....then we have ex Tory Mp's stating the abortion laws could head back to the commons.
We need a National Government but their egos are too big to do it and that includes May and Corbyn.
If the DUP talks go well, the poop will be hitting the fan. The Scottish Tories are going to have major concerns. Despite me not being a fan in the slightest, Davidson is understandably quite keen on our steps towards an inclusive culture.
Corbyn needs to backtrack and form an alliance with SNP as soon as possible. The Lib Dems will be an easy acquisition in theory (they need a PR boost after the last coalition) but the reluctance to deal with Scotland is a major issue that isn't serving either side.
Corbyn needs to backtrack and form an alliance with SNP as soon as possible. The Lib Dems will be an easy acquisition in theory (they need a PR boost after the last coalition) but the reluctance to deal with Scotland is a major issue that isn't serving either side.
SNP and I suspect lib dems would confidence Corbyn no problem. As to the budget, depends what he proposes, but given the alternative I suspect they'll let him fail.
Only concession I could see would be on the brexit negotiation team.
However without DUP actual support (not just abstain) Corbyn' going nowhere.
Maybe if Ruth Davidson formally split from the tories and formed a new party things would change, but look at what happened to the labour MPs who formed the SDP
Only concession I could see would be on the brexit negotiation team.
However without DUP actual support (not just abstain) Corbyn' going nowhere.
Maybe if Ruth Davidson formally split from the tories and formed a new party things would change, but look at what happened to the labour MPs who formed the SDP
If you add up all the opposition seats, Labour would not have enough seats to make a majority. Their calls to govern as a minority government are hypocritical, if they think they can do so, then so can the Conservatives (even tho I do not support them). Plus I would not have that Marxist Shadow Chancellor, John McDonnell, in charge of the nations purse strings. Corbyn and the far left are still holding onto the dream that socialism can and does work successfully. I guess they never heard of the Soviet Union, Pol Pot and his version of Communism, Mao's China and other nation states that tried that system....... and failed miserably. (In all cases millions died).
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With Sinn Fein not taking their seats we are left with a House of Commons that is 643 members so a majority is 322MP's.
Haven't the Lib Dems and SNP already ruled out any sort of formal coalition with Labour so at best it would be on a vote by vote basis. But so long as every Tory MP votes for the legislation even if the DUP abstain the other parties don't have enough votes to block it.
Besides just because you've made gains at this GE doesn't mean you'll make more at the next one, just as the Tories about that. Not to mention I can just see how it would play out. We tired to warn you about the "coalition of chaos" and look what's happening.
I think my taxes could be better spend on yet another vote. I've already had 4 in just over three years.
Haven't the Lib Dems and SNP already ruled out any sort of formal coalition with Labour so at best it would be on a vote by vote basis. But so long as every Tory MP votes for the legislation even if the DUP abstain the other parties don't have enough votes to block it.
Besides just because you've made gains at this GE doesn't mean you'll make more at the next one, just as the Tories about that. Not to mention I can just see how it would play out. We tired to warn you about the "coalition of chaos" and look what's happening.
I think my taxes could be better spend on yet another vote. I've already had 4 in just over three years.
Davison is in a pretty pickle at the moment, now that indyref 2 is off the table she will eventually have to start talking about what her party wants to do rather than her party is not the SNP, and it will be interesting to see what happens when she actually starts having to speak up about the stuff she and her party oppose and want to remove from the Scottish people, free bus travel for over 60's and disabled, free school meals, free uni education, removal of the bedroom tax mitigation by the scottish governemnt, all things she has kept quiet about for the last year while being able to hid behind Indyref, but now that is gone this is going the be very intresting to watch, and last month after the snap election was announced she and her party back tracked totally on free perscriptions, a main point of her party since 2011.
And of course the mess that Westminster is creating for her with this allience with the DUP and their views on LGBT and abortion.
I sometimes wonder i have fallen asleep in front of a box set binge of In the thick of it. lol
The Welfare state has turned us into a nation of gimme gimme gimme , why on earth should well and mega rich people get free school meals, free prescriptions, free university education? Why not means test all benefits and stop giving people free stuff that is not really free but paid for by taxpayers? The only deserving lot for freeness are the senior citizens who worked for 40 plus years paying into the system.
The irony is if Scotland was independent that oil the SNP were relying on... well....
The irony is if Scotland was independent that oil the SNP were relying on... well....
^And what happened to social responsibility to look after those who, through no fault of their own, are too sick to work for 40 years paying into the system? Or those who can't afford to rent or buy in the area where they can get work, and therefore end up having to leave the area to somewhere where there isn't work available? They certainly didn't cause wage stagnation or house price (or even supermarket goods) hyper-inflation. That's down to the generations where they stopped building houses, where they didn't make sure there was enough to pass on to the next generation.
They need assistance and should get even more assistance rather than welfare and free X for everyone, have welfare for those who need it.
As for the housing crisis both parties screwed the public with that, the state stopped building housing and relied on the private sector. Demand is greater than supply cos the property market, especially in the South East has prostituted itself to wealthy overseas buyers.
Who said anything about mega rich people, i think i can safely say that in Scotland there will be more people in need and greatly thankful for these things, than there will be rich people getting them that do not need them.....or do you personally know a lot of mega rich people that use their free bus pass, or mega families that send their rich children to public schools that get free meals.
Oh, and Scottish also people pay tax, you know, to fund the walfare government that helps to give those in need of help.
A universal welfare benefit includes giving from the don't need the money to the mega rich people, whether they take the money or not.
The Scottish state does not rely solely on Scottish taxpayers for funding some of it comes from central government. However it was the oil revenue the SNP argued would be used as a source of revenue during the referendum debate. Not long after the price of oil fell.
^^The welfare state is funded by all, no matter where you are in the UK, as it should be, but punishing those that require it's help by punishing everybody in a blanket attack is not, and should never be a option, those in need cannot be blamed or held to accountable for the incompetence and poor handling of the welfare system, that is why we have a tabloid media who fuel such nonsense that those on welfare are somehow living better life than those that are working, when in fact those working are also having to claim from the welfare system because of a plethroa of inept governments.
And i have no idea why you keep going on about SNP and oil, what relevence does it have to the welfare state and those in need, the Scottish government take part of the tax revenue they put into the pot with the rest of the union and use it to help people in Scotland, i do not see what part of that is somehow negative, should not all government not be doing a similar thing for the people in their country?
And i have no idea why you keep going on about SNP and oil, what relevence does it have to the welfare state and those in need, the Scottish government take part of the tax revenue they put into the pot with the rest of the union and use it to help people in Scotland, i do not see what part of that is somehow negative, should not all government not be doing a similar thing for the people in their country?
I hate the term 'welfare state' as it seeps into exactly the kind of negativity the press, and he government, rely on and it filters right down to the people who are supposed to be 'helping' you.
I was on jobseekers for a brief time when the company I worked for went bust I thought that was hell. Move forward a few years and I was dragged kicking and screaming onto ESA where - because of the aura of this 'welfare state' presentation, the wonderful people at the DWP felt it was completely acceptable to lay on massive guilt trips for my brain daring to develop a tumour.
It's a horrible, horrible system and I find is somewhat maddening that we're all conditioned to treat it like a burden. It only got worse when the EU courts found the DWP were acting against peoples basic human rights and protected those people.
I still can't fathom why so many are in support of a government that see's a bottom line and not people.
Everythings negative. Scotlands the enemy again, I've seen it all over the English papers
And because of that, I am truly proud of the welfare state, (and without the NHS, my health would be nowhere as good as it actually is now) one of only a few things that I am proud of when it comes to Great Britain.
I hate the term 'welfare state' as it seeps into exactly the kind of negativity the press, and he government, rely on and it filters right down to the people who are supposed to be 'helping' you.
I was on jobseekers for a brief time when the company I worked for went bust I thought that was hell. Move forward a few years and I was dragged kicking and screaming onto ESA where - because of the aura of this 'welfare state' presentation, the wonderful people at the DWP felt it was completely acceptable to lay on massive guilt trips for my brain daring to develop a tumour.
It's a horrible, horrible system and I find is somewhat maddening that we're all conditioned to treat it like a burden. It only got worse when the EU courts found the DWP were acting against peoples basic human rights and protected those people.
I still can't fathom why so many are in support of a government that see's a bottom line and not people.
Everythings negative. Scotlands the enemy again, I've seen it all over the English papers
You will get no argument from me, sad to say the welfare state, one of the greatest things ever brought into being by any government of the UK, is now a dirty word in this day and age, and is used as a scapegoat, and as a tool for political gain at the cost of those who need it most to shameful levels.
As for the UK tabloids hate mongering on many levels, nothing new there, but i doubt the majority still swallow their nonsense these day's.
Dear Mrs Theresa May
When will you ever learn, you had just one job, one job......
P.S Remember Grenfell. people before profits!
When will you ever learn, you had just one job, one job......
P.S Remember Grenfell. people before profits!
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