He was promoting free school meals for all kids including rich ones like Prince George and Princess Charlotte...a ridiculous idea, as bad as universal child benefit was.
UK Prime Minister May calls for snap election.
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Locally people tend to put the council back in if they are doing agood job. However its different when it comes to the general election, my area is a Labour stronghold, a donkey would win it! The council is not doing a bad job so I would vote them in again (Labour), however I cannot guarantee the same when it comes to the general election. Besides Labour has taken the ethnic minority vote for granted for too long, ironic since it was the Tories who invited my forebears after the WW2 and the left wing unions saying migrants would take away their jobs....Sounds familiar? lol
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The Left - we want to spend your money ... badly
The Right - we want to keep our money...badly
The Right - we want to keep our money...badly
True but any swing in voting since the previous local elections could give an indication as to which way people are leaning even in so called strongholds whilst a party may retain power the share of the vote will be interesting to see. My Local Council has a party with no overall control with Labour having 38 seats and the Conservatives 34 seats with Lib Dems and others 10.
Just have to see what each party comes up with in their manifestos for what they are worth. And whilst I might agree with some of each patires policies I don't think I'll be voting Labour. I simply don't see Corbyn lead government being best to negotiate Brexit (I'd much rather they not be a Brexit but the remain side lost perhaps we should do what the SNP want to do keep holding referenda until we get the result we want best 2 out of 3).
Yeah the SNP + May = If you want to know when a politician lies just wait for them to open their mouth...
If Mr Corbyn had come out as a Brexit supporter, (which he is) Labour might have swept up all those folks who voted Lib Dem in the past.
Mrs Sturgeon makes me wish the SNP had won that referendum...Bye bye Nicola and Alex.
Personally my rules would be only follow the referendum result when its a 2/3 majority of those who vote...that would really make things interesting.
Scotland should be completely independent, other nations manage with a lot less people.
If Mr Corbyn had come out as a Brexit supporter, (which he is) Labour might have swept up all those folks who voted Lib Dem in the past.
Mrs Sturgeon makes me wish the SNP had won that referendum...Bye bye Nicola and Alex.
Personally my rules would be only follow the referendum result when its a 2/3 majority of those who vote...that would really make things interesting.
Scotland should be completely independent, other nations manage with a lot less people.
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Yeah the SNP + May = If you want to know when a politician lies just wait for them to open their mouth...
Does that include when they open it to breath?
But like you whenever a politican of any party opens their mouth to speak I expect to be lied to or at best told the truth from a certain point of view (which we all know means lied to).
A politician that tells the truth does not get elected:-
1. I will give you the best free at the point of use NHS and free State education from age 5 to age 21 but it will cost everyone an increase in income tax of 10 per cent because these things need to be funded and I don't want to increase state borrowing.
2. I will give you the best NHS and Free State education up to the age of 21 and I will cut your income taxes and reduce the national debt.
Guess who wins the elections?
People want to be lied to...democracy is wasted on humans.
1. I will give you the best free at the point of use NHS and free State education from age 5 to age 21 but it will cost everyone an increase in income tax of 10 per cent because these things need to be funded and I don't want to increase state borrowing.
2. I will give you the best NHS and Free State education up to the age of 21 and I will cut your income taxes and reduce the national debt.
Guess who wins the elections?
People want to be lied to...democracy is wasted on humans.
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What no third way!
But I think given the choice between only those two options I wuld vote for option 1. Don't get me wrong I would love to pay less tax (who doesn't) but I'm smart enough to know that things like the NHS and education cost money and it has to come from somewhere.
Ms May makes those of us in Scotland wish we had as well
I've oddly found it difficult to have a decent conversation over the media hatred for the SNP. So far I've just been told to shut up and be grateful (for what, I'm never sure). But - while not a huge fan or anything - I've always found it odd that a more functional and somewhat inspiring liberal leader is hated south of the border by the same people who hate the opposite end of the scale in May.It's baffling to me in some ways, but the difference in sheer passion between SNP and other candidates up here is staggering. And no one seems to know exactly whats going on up here other than seeing it as some kind of nationalist occupation, which only makes it worse :/
They lost by a small margin and a lot of votes swung by "you will lose your EU membership" comments. Considering recent events, I think it's fair game to have a second go
(note: this is coming from someone who was keen on the 'stay in the UK' vote).
(note: this is coming from someone who was keen on the 'stay in the UK' vote).
There is a next to nothing chance that Spain would vote to allow an indpendent Scotland into the EU it would stoke the indepedence movements within it's own country.
Perhaps we should have second Brexit vote as well, now that some people realise the consequences might have shifted their vote. The simple fact in both cases the people had the chance to have their say for better or for worse.
And yes I am a Scot.
Perhaps we should have second Brexit vote as well, now that some people realise the consequences might have shifted their vote. The simple fact in both cases the people had the chance to have their say for better or for worse.
And yes I am a Scot.
I agree but folks don't trust the state to be wise with their money after all when did politicians and civil servants become experts on health and education?
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Ms May makes those of us in Scotland wish we had as well
It's baffling to me in some ways, but the difference in sheer passion between SNP and other candidates up here is staggering. And no one seems to know exactly whats going on up here other than seeing it as some kind of nationalist occupation, which only makes it worse :/
The media is mainly right wing it will hate and target anyone who is left wing and popular. They ignore the LibDems because they seem to be irrelevant (for now).
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I'd say there should be another Brexit vote. I've found major issue with the argument of "it's happened, live with it." when the reality of the situation isn't quite as black and white as people realise. On issues of this scale, a second go isn't a bad idea. Though admittedly would set a horrible precedent.
In Scotlands case it's a bit more expansive; Staying in the EU was a hot topic and that topic was made null and void fairly sharpish through a series of bad decisions (among other things). And, while it's often said that we should follow the will of the people - the will of Scotland was much higher than the UK as a whole to stay in the EU.
If Scotland stays in is a larger issue - there's more factors to consider, more political forces in play (or grievances!) but the idea that there's a second go at a referendum before we're officially hauled out with the rest of the UK creates a scenario that I'm very curious to see played out. I'm extremely intrigued by that and I don't think it's as black and white as we're all led to believe - from either argument.
But I do think Westminster has already handed over some major leverage through bad calls - I'd hoped the close call in Scotland would be a wake up call. Hours later, that hope was lost. And things have descended further... just feels like too many gambles have gone tits up and the only good way out is to leave the mess thats in play at the moment. May's not helping her cause either!
It sadly is. I say sadly as I don't disregard right wing views, but I do object to the clear bias. One partcular outlet is dreadful for it and makes me wonder how they can drag up pro-government views in areas that are completely nationalist or at the very least anti-Tory!
It's felt more 'American' lately, which I'm sure many Americans would agree shouldn't be emulated!
The Americanisation of our process is why I don't like the idea of the debates.
Worked for Trump. Corbyn doesn't use social media well though.
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