^Nope, no episode title.
UK Miracle Day thread?
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I don't recall seeing any before either.
Yeah, there just aren't enough TV shows not set in obvious places--I get annoyed that every disaster movie these days has to either show NY being destroyed, or be set in NY. I understand the recognition factor of seeing the Statue of Libery being destoryed over some less impressive statue of some guy in nowheresville, but it's got old!
And yeah, Rex is the worst thing about it!
i dunno, it was nice to see Chicago getting the shit kicked out of it in Dark of the Moon, for a change. maybe the next disaster movie could target Rio, so we can see O Christo Redentor get toppled... or maybe Sydney and see the Opera House trashed...
Or is everyone just gonna talk in the existing one?
Happy to discuss it here.
The remove the head bit was disturbing. But the guy (terrible sound quality on my tv, didn't catch any names) trying to get to Wales was hilarious.
"Whats this? I have to pay for the bridge?"
Very good 10/10 RTD, you may bring us more Dr Who.
Should have gone to Cardiff first, then he wouldn't have had to pay. :P
So according to Jane Espenson the sum total of cuts to the UK version is thirteen seconds; ten seconds of sex from Episode 3 and three seconds of violence from Episode 6.
Obviously, I'd prefer there hadn't been any at all but at the same time the whole situation does appear to have been blown out of proportion.
Obviously, I'd prefer there hadn't been any at all but at the same time the whole situation does appear to have been blown out of proportion.
^Starz don't have commercial breaks either. They're a pay channel.
That's exactly the reason. The Beeb have actually said the whole reason is because it's on BBC One, their other excuse is because it has a lot of young fans, but should that matter when it's a post-watershed show?
Yes Beebs 2 and 3 would have observed the watershed as it's supposed to be observed. BBC 1 came out very badly in a recent review of BBC channel identity. Much worse than any of the others. Since they have to answer to the board and government to justify their income, perhaps the Director of BBC 1 will grow a pair and stop slavishly copying the low budget crowd pleasers from ITV and C4. That said, their commitment to drama this summer has been nothing short of excellent.
You notice a high percentage of that was on BBC Two though? They increased BBC Two's drama budget by £20m and said they want it to be "The British HBO". Also the amount of drama is down, it's just it's been better.
You know, I didn't notice. D'oh! Personally I think less but better quality is definitely the way to go on a decreasing budget. If BBC 1 only had the courage to dump their embarrassingly dire sitcoms and go for something original and fresh I might watch more TV. Also, poaching good shows from the other channels, like Torchwood and Miranda and then censoring them or flogging them to death, is unforgivable.
The Shadow Line, The Crimson Petal and The White, Exile, The Hour, and a couple of others, all BBC Two shows.
The moving from Three/Two to One is supposed to be a sign of respect, a bigger budget, a larger audience, but they end up watering them down... Well Children of Earth was better for it but there's no reason it couldn't be on BBC Two and be the same show. But yeah, I agree there's no need for it, get their own shows, commission new shows from the same creators or something, don't water down good shows.
Just posted this in the Original British Drama thread but might as well put it here too, new trail for the Summer/Autumn season
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Luther was on BBC1 though, and that sure as hell wasn't watered down!
Torchwood is an odd beast though; adult yet not adult, a spin off of a family show that isn't really a spin off of a family show anymore, and there probably still is this fear (founded or not) that kids will stay up to watch it because Captain Jack's in it (even though it's been 2 1/2 years since he was in Who and that was a 30 second cameo!)
I really don't get this big deal about a few seconds shaved off a scene, so long as the scene is still there for the most part. If they were removing scenes entirely I'd think differently.
Torchwood is an odd beast though; adult yet not adult, a spin off of a family show that isn't really a spin off of a family show anymore, and there probably still is this fear (founded or not) that kids will stay up to watch it because Captain Jack's in it (even though it's been 2 1/2 years since he was in Who and that was a 30 second cameo!)
I really don't get this big deal about a few seconds shaved off a scene, so long as the scene is still there for the most part. If they were removing scenes entirely I'd think differently.
It won't make any difference to the watchability or otherwise of the show but it's the principle that I'm concerned about. It's the first time I've heard of the 9 o'clock watershed being ignored because of the chance children will be watching the show. The watershed is there for a reason: to let parents know what is and isn't suitable for children. When Torchwood first appeared on BBC3 there was no such squeamishness despite the fact Captain Jack was fresh from DW at that time.
And when Torchwood was on BBC 3 what we had was inuendo, potty mouths and some sex and violence, but probably not as much as you think, and I don't recall anything that graphic either. And there was all sorts of squeamishness raised at the time about kids watching because of Captain Jack. Remember series 2 was repeated at an earlier time and in a censored format specifically so kids could watch it!
I do understand what you mean about the principle however.
I do understand what you mean about the principle however.
The problems with series one are more that it was rushed and they were seeing how far to go. The family friend version of series 2 wasn't actually all that edited, mostly swear words. And the reason for that was Martha being in it, not Jack.
The fact that it is on BBC1 rather than 2 or 3, is both a good and bad thing. BBC1 is usually reserved for what the BBC belives to be it's top shows. Whilst 2 and 3 are aimed towards the more niche markets. So if a show is moved p a channel it is generally a sign of how much the Beeb rates the show as a whole. Converesley of course BBC1 tends to be more careful what it shows post watershed. So if it was on 2 or 3 it might not have the same cuts made to it.
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