Yogurt: God willing, we'll all meet again in Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money.
"Uh'll be back." - Another Terminator for Arnie
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Yogurt: God willing, we'll all meet again in Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money.
excellent!
Ignoring the past 2 movies would be perfect to me, because then they could just do a straight ahead Terminator movie. The first two Terminator movies kept it open ended, but T3 and T4 boxed them into the post-apocalyptic era.
So at the very least I expect something as good as T3 and probably pretty similar in style. Anything more is a bonus.
The post-apocalyptic era and showing the war was the natural progression of things though. On paper, it sounds like a good premise. McG's execution on it however, wasn't. I mean, it wasn't THAT bad....but it could have been so much more.
The post apocalyptic era does have a lot to explore, and it could be done well ( and I even enjoyed T4), but to me it doesn't feel like a real Terminator movie without following that same formula.
Don't get me wrong, I do hope they can put a fresh spin on it instead of complete rehash, something other than just "bad terminator is female and even more formidable than the T-1000", but I like the idea of them returning to the classic formula. I think setting it in the futuristic war made it lose a bit of the relatable element that T1 and T2 did.
Don't get me wrong, I do hope they can put a fresh spin on it instead of complete rehash, something other than just "bad terminator is female and even more formidable than the T-1000", but I like the idea of them returning to the classic formula. I think setting it in the futuristic war made it lose a bit of the relatable element that T1 and T2 did.
Neither convinced me that they were an adult version of the kid from T2.
The franchise rights have been purchased by Megan Ellison
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Mega...se-Justin-Lin-Officially-Directing-24688.html
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Mega...se-Justin-Lin-Officially-Directing-24688.html
Harlan Ellison must be furious.
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So how will the scandal effect this movie??? 
So how will the scandal effect this movie???
They should cast this guy!
Roland Kickinger
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Yeah that would great!
Terminator 5
With Arnold Schwarzenegger's affair becoming public knowledge, so there are rumors that the film is being retooled into a reboot. Arnold's role may be reduced.
Well I'm not exactly excited of a reboot of this series.
Having Arnold return for Terminator 5 is the right thing to do.
I was really happy to see him reprise his role in Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003) after 12 years.
I realize with his political office job he wasn't able/willing to act in Terminator Salvation (2009) but he should return for Terminator 5.
If the new studio who owns the property decides to retool and reboot it I think a lot of fans will not be happy.
With Arnold Schwarzenegger's affair becoming public knowledge, so there are rumors that the film is being retooled into a reboot. Arnold's role may be reduced.
Well I'm not exactly excited of a reboot of this series.
Having Arnold return for Terminator 5 is the right thing to do.
I was really happy to see him reprise his role in Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003) after 12 years.
I realize with his political office job he wasn't able/willing to act in Terminator Salvation (2009) but he should return for Terminator 5.
If the new studio who owns the property decides to retool and reboot it I think a lot of fans will not be happy.
I think the series needs to have a definitive end, where either the Machines win or the Humans do.
The first three movies were all about how you can't stop Judgment Day, and the third ends with Judgment Day upon them.
I still haven't seen Terminator Salvation, but I assume the war is still going on there. So what is the premise of the series now?
The first three movies were all about how you can't stop Judgment Day, and the third ends with Judgment Day upon them.
I still haven't seen Terminator Salvation, but I assume the war is still going on there. So what is the premise of the series now?
Re: Terminator 5
Arnie's old. Which makes for a poor robot.
And the "fans" aren't going to be happy anyway, regardless.
And how many Terminator "fans" are there? Not that many by the box office of T4.
A general audience probably wouldn't care one bit if it was a reboot--so long as it gives them thrills, action, etc.
Arnie's old. Which makes for a poor robot.
And the "fans" aren't going to be happy anyway, regardless.
And how many Terminator "fans" are there? Not that many by the box office of T4.
A general audience probably wouldn't care one bit if it was a reboot--so long as it gives them thrills, action, etc.
Justin Lin, from a weirdly pretentious MovieHole interview:
Hey, dum-dums! People die sometimes. Actual people, especially those who've been spiked through the shoulder by a damaged T-1000, sometimes get diseases and die early, even those we like.
One can argue that there was no reason to make T3. I don't agree, but I respect those who think so. But it doesn't take William Shakespeare to see that the character of John Connor would never fully mature with Barracuda Sarah looking over his shoulder. The creators' decision to absent her from T3's main narrative actually respected her character by acknowledging the force of her personality, and telling a different story rather than rehashing T2.
Q: There’s going to be a way to resurrect Sarah Connor. I’m missing Sarah Connor.
A: I mean, Sarah Connor is such a big part of the franchise, you know. Yeah, I mean I’ve always been surprised how in part 3 she was just like… It was like one line and she was gone.
Q: She was dead, yeah, yeah. It was insulting, yeah.
A: Yeah, like leukemia and… But I think the great thing about this franchise is you have… You can actually have different canons because you have the element of time travel. So, there’s a way of kind of respecting all the works but also able to create a new time line.
A: I mean, Sarah Connor is such a big part of the franchise, you know. Yeah, I mean I’ve always been surprised how in part 3 she was just like… It was like one line and she was gone.
Q: She was dead, yeah, yeah. It was insulting, yeah.
A: Yeah, like leukemia and… But I think the great thing about this franchise is you have… You can actually have different canons because you have the element of time travel. So, there’s a way of kind of respecting all the works but also able to create a new time line.
One can argue that there was no reason to make T3. I don't agree, but I respect those who think so. But it doesn't take William Shakespeare to see that the character of John Connor would never fully mature with Barracuda Sarah looking over his shoulder. The creators' decision to absent her from T3's main narrative actually respected her character by acknowledging the force of her personality, and telling a different story rather than rehashing T2.
Give us season 3 of The Sarah Connor Chronicles!
Re: Terminator 5
One way to get around Arnold's age is to make him a human character. There were some old Terminator novels back in the day that did just that. His character became the template for the Terminator. A deleted scene from T3 also did something similar, with Sgt. Candy, but played it more for a joke.
The Dieter von Rossbach character was far more badass.
http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Dieter_von_Rossbach
As for the number of Terminator fans, that's a good question. T4 underperformed and Sarah Connor lost viewers like dropping flies, but I still think the concept is viable. It's one of the best known brands, we are currently experiencing a wave of 80's nostalgia in Hollywood, and as we increasingly become more dependent on our technology, the questions raised in the Terminator films become even more important. Bringing Arnold back will bring back a lot of fans and excitement to the franchise. However I think the emphasis should be on making a good film.
With T4, many of the ingredients were there, and I think Christian Bale had proved he could carry a franchise, so T4 should've been okay without Arnold's involvement or heavy involvement like the other films. But T4 wasn't a good enough film. They chickened out on the twist which would've breathed new life into the series, though admittedly cause ripples across the internet, and I think it hamstrung the film. They changed the original ending, but were too lazy or uncreative to rewrite the story enough to fit the new ending, so it came off as a bit incoherent IMO. Plus, it hurt the film that one of the biggest reveals in the movie was in the trailers.
One way to get around Arnold's age is to make him a human character. There were some old Terminator novels back in the day that did just that. His character became the template for the Terminator. A deleted scene from T3 also did something similar, with Sgt. Candy, but played it more for a joke.
The Dieter von Rossbach character was far more badass.
http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Dieter_von_Rossbach
As for the number of Terminator fans, that's a good question. T4 underperformed and Sarah Connor lost viewers like dropping flies, but I still think the concept is viable. It's one of the best known brands, we are currently experiencing a wave of 80's nostalgia in Hollywood, and as we increasingly become more dependent on our technology, the questions raised in the Terminator films become even more important. Bringing Arnold back will bring back a lot of fans and excitement to the franchise. However I think the emphasis should be on making a good film.
With T4, many of the ingredients were there, and I think Christian Bale had proved he could carry a franchise, so T4 should've been okay without Arnold's involvement or heavy involvement like the other films. But T4 wasn't a good enough film. They chickened out on the twist which would've breathed new life into the series, though admittedly cause ripples across the internet, and I think it hamstrung the film. They changed the original ending, but were too lazy or uncreative to rewrite the story enough to fit the new ending, so it came off as a bit incoherent IMO. Plus, it hurt the film that one of the biggest reveals in the movie was in the trailers.
It's kind of the Alien/Ripley argument. Do you need Ripley to tell a Xenomorph story? Do you need Sarah Connor to tell a Terminator story?[/INDENT][/INDENT]Hey, dum-dums! People die sometimes. Actual people, especially those who've been spiked through the shoulder by a damaged T-1000, sometimes get diseases and die early, even those we like.
One can argue that there was no reason to make T3. I don't agree, but I respect those who think so. But it doesn't take William Shakespeare to see that the character of John Connor would never fully mature with Barracuda Sarah looking over his shoulder. The creators' decision to absent her from T3's main narrative actually respected her character by acknowledging the force of her personality, and telling a different story rather than rehashing T2.
The Terminator franchise has always been about John Connor. Sarah Connor was the vessel by which John entered the world, but the Skynet's goal was always to eliminate John.
That said, I wish Sarah's death had been handled differently. If nothing else, with all she'd been through, she deserved to die in a blaze of glory...or old age (I'm not sure which would be more appropriate).
I guess this will do for "Terminator 5" discussion or "Untitled Terminator Project". According to this...Cameron has been sitting in on story discussions, apparently lured into them by Arnie himself.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09...tor-gets-theme-park-pushes-cinema-technology/
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09...tor-gets-theme-park-pushes-cinema-technology/
Well, at least it is gradually moving forward to some degree.