uhhh... why don't they just BEAM down

[PKTrekGirl]

Look, here's the deal: there's a need to put something visually exciting and novel into the movie so as to get people to want to see it.

Given that it's a Star Trek movie, that's a nearly unsurmountable challenge. They're trying, though.

Hope that was meant to be funny. Cus it was.

 

[ancient]

A better question might be: how can Kirk and Sulu walk around the platform, several kilometers above the surface, and not suffocate?

Depends how many kilometers it is, really. There are more than a few major cities on Earth at elevations of two kilometers or better, and Everest (nearly nine kilometers) has been scaled without bottled oxygen more than a few times. Granted, Vulcan's atmosphere is thinner, so nine kilometers would probably be too extreme, but being a few kilometers up isn't automatically fatal. However, shortness of breath after a relatively small amount of exertion would be expected; Sulu should be wiped out after his duel with the Rather Large Romulan.

This is also Vulcan, not Earth. Vulcan supposedly has higher gravity and a lower oxygen atm.

 

[Augustus]

'The space-drill is ionizing the atmosphere around the transport site.'

God, I've been watching Star Trek for too long...

 

[M'Sharak]

A better question might be: how can Kirk and Sulu walk around the platform, several kilometers above the surface, and not suffocate?

Depends how many kilometers it is, really. There are more than a few major cities on Earth at elevations of two kilometers or better, and Everest (nearly nine kilometers) has been scaled without bottled oxygen more than a few times. Granted, Vulcan's atmosphere is thinner, so nine kilometers would probably be too extreme, but being a few kilometers up isn't automatically fatal. However, shortness of breath after a relatively small amount of exertion would be expected; Sulu should be wiped out after his duel with the Rather Large Romulan.

This is also Vulcan, not Earth. Vulcan supposedly has higher gravity and a lower oxygen atm.

Drat, I must have lost that part in revising.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

What about the rumor that in this new timeline, things have been altered so much that Scotty is only just now getting around to inventing the transporter in the first place? I thought that's why they had to go search him out, on that remote outpost.

 

[Tralah]

Writers coming up with an excuse not to use the transporter for dramatic purposes is a time-honored Star Trek tradition. From a writer's perspective, transporters are pesky devices that make it too easy to get out of situation. One aspect of the Enterprise series I was looking forward to was the crew not having to depend so dang much on transporters, but series still fell back on using them more than I would have liked.

 

[M'Sharak]

What about the rumor that in this new timeline, things have been altered so much that Scotty is only just now getting around to inventing the transporter in the first place? I thought that's why they had to go search him out, on that remote outpost.

No, and again, no. It's not a rumor. It's pure fabrication. It's just made-up, the same as it was made-up the last time you brought it up here. And the time before that.

It has not been part of any official press release or review.

What was reported was that Scotty

Spoiler: prompted by

Old Spock, who learned it from Scotty, who invented it in the future, which hasn't happened yet

develops a transporter technique

Spoiler: the technique is...

transwarp beaming

Spock and Kirk need to be beamed on board the Enterprise, it seems, while it’s still at warp – an impossibility, they’re told. “the notion of transwarp beaming is like trying to hit a bullet with a smaller bullet while wearing a blindfold, riding a horse.” Scotty, however, invented the technique, only his present self has yet to make the necessary discovery. Spock helpfully fills in the gaps by providing the future Scotty’s formula.

http://www.empireonline.com/empireblog/Post.asp?id=313

which had not (at that time) been used before.

Additionally, the reason he was assigned to said remote outpost was that an earlier (unrelated?) experiment using the transporter was not entirely successful.

Spoiler: It did not succeed because...

the Admiral's beagle failed to rematerialize
http://trekmovie.com/2008/11/11/20-minutes-of-star-trek-previewed-in-uk/
http://www.empireonline.com/empireblog/Post.asp?id=313

Furthermore, none of that has anything to do with the question raised in the OP of this thread.

 

[number6]

What about the rumor that in this new timeline, things have been altered so much that Scotty is only just now getting around to inventing the transporter in the first place? I thought that's why they had to go search him out, on that remote outpost.

No, and again, no. It's not a rumor. It's pure fabrication. It's just made-up, the same as it was made-up the last time you brought it up here. And the time before that.

It has not been part of any official press release or review.

What was reported was that Scotty

Spoiler: prompted by

Old Spock, who learned it from Scotty, who invented it in the future, which hasn't happened yet

develops a transporter technique

Spoiler: the technique is...

transwarp beaming

Spock and Kirk need to be beamed on board the Enterprise, it seems, while it’s still at warp – an impossibility, they’re told. “the notion of transwarp beaming is like trying to hit a bullet with a smaller bullet while wearing a blindfold, riding a horse.” Scotty, however, invented the technique, only his present self has yet to make the necessary discovery. Spock helpfully fills in the gaps by providing the future Scotty’s formula.

http://www.empireonline.com/empireblog/Post.asp?id=313

which had not (at that time) been used before.

Additionally, the reason he was assigned to said remote outpost was that an earlier (unrelated?) experiment using the transporter was not entirely successful.

Spoiler: It did not succeed because...

the Admiral's beagle failed to rematerialize
http://trekmovie.com/2008/11/11/20-minutes-of-star-trek-previewed-in-uk/

Furthermore, none of that has anything to do with the question raised in the OP of this thread.

Childhoods all over the country are in court pointing to that particular spot on the rape doll.

 

[Aragorn]

Writers coming up with an excuse not to use the transporter for dramatic purposes is a time-honored Star Trek tradition. From a writer's perspective, transporters are pesky devices that make it too easy to get out of situation. One aspect of the Enterprise series I was looking forward to was the crew not having to depend so dang much on transporters, but series still fell back on using them more than I would have liked.

"Captain, I'm afraid your away team will have to use alternative methods. Everyone who's used the transporter has a Barry Manilow song stuck in their head for months!"

 

[dillon3001]

Bones could've given Kirk, Olsen and Sulu a shot of tri-ox compound at some point before the orbital skydive.

 

[Lashmore]

Preconceived fan-babble before they know the official details can be more damaging to a franchise then technobabble.

However, technobabble is sued much to much. I thought TNG was too heavy into the babble, then I saw voyager...

"I have a headache" *changes channel*

 

[Broccoli]

What about the rumor that in this new timeline, things have been altered so much that Scotty is only just now getting around to inventing the transporter in the first place? I thought that's why they had to go search him out, on that remote outpost.

No, and again, no. It's not a rumor. It's pure fabrication. It's just made-up, the same as it was made-up the last time you brought it up here. And the time before that.

It has not been part of any official press release or review.

What was reported was that Scotty

Spoiler: prompted by

Old Spock, who learned it from Scotty, who invented it in the future, which hasn't happened yet

develops a transporter technique

Spoiler: the technique is...

transwarp beaming

Spock and Kirk need to be beamed on board the Enterprise, it seems, while it’s still at warp – an impossibility, they’re told. “the notion of transwarp beaming is like trying to hit a bullet with a smaller bullet while wearing a blindfold, riding a horse.” Scotty, however, invented the technique, only his present self has yet to make the necessary discovery. Spock helpfully fills in the gaps by providing the future Scotty’s formula.

http://www.empireonline.com/empireblog/Post.asp?id=313

which had not (at that time) been used before.

Additionally, the reason he was assigned to said remote outpost was that an earlier (unrelated?) experiment using the transporter was not entirely successful.

Spoiler: It did not succeed because...

the Admiral's beagle failed to rematerialize
http://trekmovie.com/2008/11/11/20-minutes-of-star-trek-previewed-in-uk/

Furthermore, none of that has anything to do with the question raised in the OP of this thread.

Childhoods all over the country are in court pointing to that particular spot on the rape doll.

When you say things like this is why you are my favorite poster at the TrekBBS.

 

[xortex]

Instead of parachuting or diving or whatever... LOL

Something to do with the concept of orbital diving that was bandied about by ST writers somewhere. Yea it's stupid. They'll probably be a dyson's sphere too. The drill is also somewhat antiquated and stupid no matter what its size. You see if they only had a good script so far this movie is great. I fear the music is also gonna suck. Along with a great director they get sucky writers and composers. It's a package deal. Paramount should have considered other peoples scripts as well - about ten of them at least. IMHO.

They rejected your fan script, didn't they?

A good sci-fi idea is a good sci-fi idea no matter where it comes and they're not easy to come by. Space drilling is not great. As far as my fan scripts. They've stepped on me quite a few times and at this time I'm kind of proud of that, believe it or not, but so far they're stepping on quite a few flimsy things and people and the ice is thin out there.

 

[Broccoli]

Something to do with the concept of orbital diving that was bandied about by ST writers somewhere. Yea it's stupid. They'll probably be a dyson's sphere too. The drill is also somewhat antiquated and stupid no matter what its size. You see if they only had a good script so far this movie is great. I fear the music is also gonna suck. Along with a great director they get sucky writers and composers. It's a package deal. Paramount should have considered other peoples scripts as well - about ten of them at least. IMHO.

They rejected your fan script, didn't they?

A good sci-fi idea is a good sci-fi idea no matter where it comes and they're not easy to come by. Space drilling is not great.

That is strictly a matter of opinion and not fact. I have no idea why they are "space drilling" (as you call it) nor do I know if I think it is a good idea within the film or not. No one does, except for the filmmakers, which I suspect they think it is a good idea.

I know this has been said a billion times already in this thread, but why not wait to see why they are "space drilling" to decide if it is or isn't great?

As far as my fan scripts. They've stepped on me quite a few times and at this time I'm kind of proud of that, believe it or not, but so far they're stepping on quite a few flimsy things and people and the ice is thin out there.

Okay, I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.