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uhhh... why don't they just BEAM down

'The space-drill is ionizing the atmosphere around the transport site.'

God, I've been watching Star Trek for too long...
 
Instead of parachuting or diving or whatever... LOL
Something to do with the concept of orbital diving that was bandied about by ST writers somewhere. Yea it's stupid. They'll probably be a dyson's sphere too. The drill is also somewhat antiquated and stupid no matter what its size. You see if they only had a good script so far this movie is great. I fear the music is also gonna suck. Along with a great director they get sucky writers and composers. It's a package deal. Paramount should have considered other peoples scripts as well - about ten of them at least. IMHO.
 
Instead of parachuting or diving or whatever... LOL
Something to do with the concept of orbital diving that was bandied about by ST writers somewhere. Yea it's stupid. They'll probably be a dyson's sphere too. The drill is also somewhat antiquated and stupid no matter what its size. You see if they only had a good script so far this movie is great. I fear the music is also gonna suck. Along with a great director they get sucky writers and composers. It's a package deal. Paramount should have considered other peoples scripts as well - about ten of them at least. IMHO.

Wow.
 
all of the above though even back as far as tos the ionized thing was used.
add in that a transporter beam can be detected a long distance away but three people may be able to sneak down to a planet.
 
meh...You can use a transporter every day of the week, it's boring.

Sky diving from orbit into Vulcan is a once in a lifetime experience. Who wouldn't choose that ?
Besides you can't shout woo hoo hoo while being beamed.

Anyway, I'm sure there's a reason. I'll get back to you when I see the movie.


Instead of parachuting or diving or whatever... LOL
Something to do with the concept of orbital diving that was bandied about by ST writers somewhere. Yea it's stupid. They'll probably be a dyson's sphere too. The drill is also somewhat antiquated and stupid no matter what its size. You see if they only had a good script so far this movie is great. I fear the music is also gonna suck. Along with a great director they get sucky writers and composers. It's a package deal. Paramount should have considered other peoples scripts as well - about ten of them at least. IMHO.

Wow.

Indeed :wtf::lol:
 
Its a huge metal cable, moving about the Narada lowers it, each segment showing unpredictable movement as it descends into Vulcan's atmosphere, with the only places to stand on it being a few metres across.

Transporters would be useless trying to pinpoint a landing spot so small thats moving both downward and moving side to side.

Dropping from the ship and diving alongside the cable, able to correct movement on the way down before deploying a parachute to slow down and set down on the main drill head is still incredibly dangerous, but probably a much better way of getting down there.

I for one wouldn't want to try being transported onto a 20 mile tall steel cable swinging about randomly, either missing it completely or materialising half inside it.
 
The transporter being out or unusable for some reason at a crucial moment is a Trek staple. Just like red shirts being knocked off.

MILD SPOILER BELOW:










Note that later in that scene, it's been reported that Chekov gets the transporter to work and saves Kirk and Sulu from the drilling platform at the last moment. (They fell off and were nearly to hit the ground.) Yes, that's TRUE!
 
Instead of parachuting or diving or whatever... LOL
Something to do with the concept of orbital diving that was bandied about by ST writers somewhere. Yea it's stupid. They'll probably be a dyson's sphere too. The drill is also somewhat antiquated and stupid no matter what its size. You see if they only had a good script so far this movie is great. I fear the music is also gonna suck. Along with a great director they get sucky writers and composers. It's a package deal. Paramount should have considered other peoples scripts as well - about ten of them at least. IMHO.

:wtf:

They rejected your fan script, didn't they?
 
^ Boggles the mind - it really does. Just how absolutely negative people can be based only on rumors and a couple of trailers totaling less than 5 minutes of screentime.

Good grief, lighten up, folks. It's only a MOVIE. Why not at least try to find some enjoyment in something for a change? Because it must be a really grim existence to spend your time worrying, fretting, and complaining about a MOVIE. Especially a MOVIE which hasn't even come out yet and about which we know very little.

I swear...sometimes I think a bunch of you guys WANT to hate this movie. I mean, you REALLY, REALLY want to hate it in the worst possible way. For what reason I cannot even begin to imagine...but you REALLY want to hate it.

And sorry...but I just don't get that. I really don't.

*shakes head in disgust*
 
^ Boggles the mind - it really does. Just how absolutely negative people can be based only on rumors and a couple of trailers totaling less than 5 minutes of screentime.

Good grief, lighten up, folks. It's only a MOVIE. Why not at least try to find some enjoyment in something for a change? Because it must be a really grim existence to spend your time worrying, fretting, and complaining about a MOVIE. Especially a MOVIE which hasn't even come out yet and about which we know very little.

I swear...sometimes I think a bunch of you guys WANT to hate this movie. I mean, you REALLY, REALLY want to hate it in the worst possible way. For what reason I cannot even begin to imagine...but you REALLY want to hate it.

And sorry...but I just don't get that. I really don't.

*shakes head in disgust*

Im inclined to agree. Come May, throw down the 10 bucks or whatever the cost of ticket may be, go see the movie, then we can all sit down and discuss it.

Its hardly fair to say the script is crap, or the movie is crap based on a small fraction we have seen of the movie itself via trailers and such. You cant tell me that them skydiving instead of beaming down to the planet is a deal breaker for some of you.
 
Its hardly fair to say the script is crap, or the movie is crap based on a small fraction we have seen of the movie itself via trailers and such. You cant tell me that them skydiving instead of beaming down to the planet is a deal breaker for some of you.

This is true, but this one scene that has been previewed by some and it has been described in some detail. There was a thread about the "giant space drill" scene some time back, and even some who are giddy about the movie (including me) think this scene COULD be a groaner. (See my post above with the minor spoiler. A bit cliche, eh? Add to that --)

Apparently, they have to skydive to the drilling platform in order to plant explosives onto the drill rig. The only explosives they had were on the red shirt who's killed, of course, so no explosives. After a fight with the Romulans, Kirk is able to get one of their hand weapons, empty it into the drill, and stop it from working. Well, if it were that easy to stop it to begin with -- I mean, with just a hand weapon -- what's with all the theatrics?

Of course, context matters, so we'll see how all this unfolds.
 
Apparently, it's some sort of stealth manuver. Doesn't anyone remember that spoiler? Something about the Narada blocking the ship from getting close enough, so they drop them from a shuttle instead. Or something. There will be a reason, rest assured.
 
^ Boggles the mind - it really does. Just how absolutely negative people can be based only on rumors and a couple of trailers totaling less than 5 minutes of screentime.

Good grief, lighten up, folks. It's only a MOVIE. Why not at least try to find some enjoyment in something for a change? Because it must be a really grim existence to spend your time worrying, fretting, and complaining about a MOVIE. Especially a MOVIE which hasn't even come out yet and about which we know very little.

I swear...sometimes I think a bunch of you guys WANT to hate this movie. I mean, you REALLY, REALLY want to hate it in the worst possible way. For what reason I cannot even begin to imagine...but you REALLY want to hate it.

And sorry...but I just don't get that. I really don't.

*shakes head in disgust*

Im inclined to agree. Come May, throw down the 10 bucks or whatever the cost of ticket may be, go see the movie, then we can all sit down and discuss it.

Its hardly fair to say the script is crap, or the movie is crap based on a small fraction we have seen of the movie itself via trailers and such. You cant tell me that them skydiving instead of beaming down to the planet is a deal breaker for some of you.

You're right. TREK BBS is only for people who love everything they're seen about this movie despite the fact that they've seen no more then those who don't like what they see.

Why the fuck is their opinions any less valid then yours? Every time someone says something negative about this God's Gift of a movie to everyone, we get ganged up on and ragged on.

It's funny that when someone attacts the movie, it's the poster who gets attacted. How about just saying why you do like the movie?

Let me sum this up. Everyone who likes or dislikes this movie based on 30 seconds of trailer and miscellaneous footage, already have their minds fucking made up. But enough of this fucking picking on people just because they don't like something. They don't like what they see. Don't take it so fucking personally.

I'm taking this personally because few bad apples, inluding some mod posts, really have been turning me off from this site, as I'm sure it's turning others away simply because they feel bullied and afraid to post their opinions.

It's all just fucking pathetic.
 
Apparently, it's some sort of stealth manuver. Doesn't anyone remember that spoiler? Something about the Narada blocking the ship from getting close enough, so they drop them from a shuttle instead. Or something. There will be a reason, rest assured.

That's my point, kind of. If we buy the reason, the rest will make sense.
 
^ Boggles the mind - it really does. Just how absolutely negative people can be based only on rumors and a couple of trailers totaling less than 5 minutes of screen time.

Good grief, lighten up, folks. It's only a MOVIE. Why not at least try to find some enjoyment in something for a change? Because it must be a really grim existence to spend your time worrying, fretting, and complaining about a MOVIE. Especially a MOVIE which hasn't even come out yet and about which we know very little.

I swear...sometimes I think a bunch of you guys WANT to hate this movie. I mean, you REALLY, REALLY want to hate it in the worst possible way. For what reason I cannot even begin to imagine...but you REALLY want to hate it.

And sorry...but I just don't get that. I really don't.

*shakes head in disgust*

I'm inclined to agree. Come May, throw down the 10 bucks or whatever the cost of ticket may be, go see the movie, then we can all sit down and discuss it.

Its hardly fair to say the script is crap, or the movie is crap based on a small fraction we have seen of the movie itself via trailers and such. You cant tell me that them skydiving instead of beaming down to the planet is a deal breaker for some of you.

You're right. TREK BBS is only for people who love everything they're seen about this movie despite the fact that they've seen no more then those who don't like what they see.

Why the fuck is their opinions any less valid then yours? Every time someone says something negative about this God's Gift of a movie to everyone, we get ganged up on and ragged on.

It's funny that when someone attacks the movie, it's the poster who gets attacked. How about just saying why you do like the movie?

Let me sum this up. Everyone who likes or dislikes this movie based on 30 seconds of trailer and miscellaneous footage, already have their minds fucking made up. But enough of this fucking picking on people just because they don't like something. They don't like what they see. Don't take it so fucking personally.

I'm taking this personally because few bad apples, including some mod posts, really have been turning me off from this site, as I'm sure it's turning others away simply because they feel bullied and afraid to post their opinions.

It's all just fucking pathetic.

So ends the 'Fucking' Sermon, for today...:lol:


My guess is that this is a Homage to the scene We didn't get in GENERATIONs, but heard about, where Kirk is shown doing orbital skydiving at the begining of the movie.
 
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